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  3. I need university administrators (and probably some other people too, but definitely university administrators) to understand something: you cannot motivate your faculty to do more research or better teaching.

I need university administrators (and probably some other people too, but definitely university administrators) to understand something: you cannot motivate your faculty to do more research or better teaching.

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  • Rob RicciR Rob Ricci

    I need university administrators (and probably some other people too, but definitely university administrators) to understand something: you cannot motivate your faculty to do more research or better teaching.

    They are already maximally motivated people. They did not get the job by being unmotivated. A good chunk of them have more motivation than is healthy for them.

    Any action you take to "motivate" them is going to be demotivational. Any of them. Yes, even that one that you just thought of. Yes, even the one you heard about from one of your peers at a different institution that you're jealous of.

    Lean in close, here's the secret: all you have to do is (a) support them in doing their jobs, and (b) not fuck things up.

    George BG This user is from outside of this forum
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    @ricci

    Finding the obstacles and clearing them so they can do the thing they are extremely motivated to do should be the obvious course of action

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    • Ethan BlantonE This user is from outside of this forum
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      @kevinbowrin This sounds amazing.
      @ricci

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      • Rob RicciR Rob Ricci

        I need university administrators (and probably some other people too, but definitely university administrators) to understand something: you cannot motivate your faculty to do more research or better teaching.

        They are already maximally motivated people. They did not get the job by being unmotivated. A good chunk of them have more motivation than is healthy for them.

        Any action you take to "motivate" them is going to be demotivational. Any of them. Yes, even that one that you just thought of. Yes, even the one you heard about from one of your peers at a different institution that you're jealous of.

        Lean in close, here's the secret: all you have to do is (a) support them in doing their jobs, and (b) not fuck things up.

        David Mitchell :CApride:D This user is from outside of this forum
        David Mitchell :CApride:D This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ricci

        This applies to so many people in roles ranging far outside of universities. Most people actually want to do a good job and take pride in their work, particularly if it is a career choice. The best thing management can do is get out of the way with the ridiculous demotifying roadblocks. Simply support them adequately and then get out of the way.

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        • Lee from ColoradoC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @kevinbowrin
          I would have loved such a service in my teaching days...

          @ricci

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          • Naga (he/him)N This user is from outside of this forum
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            @kevinbowrin @ricci Whereas when I was faculty at an R1, I was doing all the budget paperwork and calculations and making and collating all the photocopied sets for my research grant applications... There was nobody whose job included helping with any of that.

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            • Rob RicciR Rob Ricci

              I need university administrators (and probably some other people too, but definitely university administrators) to understand something: you cannot motivate your faculty to do more research or better teaching.

              They are already maximally motivated people. They did not get the job by being unmotivated. A good chunk of them have more motivation than is healthy for them.

              Any action you take to "motivate" them is going to be demotivational. Any of them. Yes, even that one that you just thought of. Yes, even the one you heard about from one of your peers at a different institution that you're jealous of.

              Lean in close, here's the secret: all you have to do is (a) support them in doing their jobs, and (b) not fuck things up.

              Helen LHR This user is from outside of this forum
              Helen LHR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @ricci If only! At the moment UK universities seem obsessed with profit above all else. They actively making courses worse so they can cut them. They are removing all optionality for interesting modules. Making staff juggle modules from multiple courses and still expect world leading research on approximately the half a day a week that we are not teaching or burdened with unnecessary bureaucracy.

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              • Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.A This user is from outside of this forum
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                Annelies Kamran, Ph.D.
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                @dan @ricci as someone stuck in adjunct hell, I dream of a job with continuity, a full-time salary, and benefits. So, yeah, we exist.

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                • Rob RicciR Rob Ricci

                  I need university administrators (and probably some other people too, but definitely university administrators) to understand something: you cannot motivate your faculty to do more research or better teaching.

                  They are already maximally motivated people. They did not get the job by being unmotivated. A good chunk of them have more motivation than is healthy for them.

                  Any action you take to "motivate" them is going to be demotivational. Any of them. Yes, even that one that you just thought of. Yes, even the one you heard about from one of your peers at a different institution that you're jealous of.

                  Lean in close, here's the secret: all you have to do is (a) support them in doing their jobs, and (b) not fuck things up.

                  Steve FreemanS This user is from outside of this forum
                  Steve FreemanS This user is from outside of this forum
                  Steve Freeman
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                  @ricci many, many years ago, the deputy director of my lab viewed the researchers as weird animals in a zoo. His job was to stop us running amok. He almost broke the lab.

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                  • Rob RicciR Rob Ricci

                    I need university administrators (and probably some other people too, but definitely university administrators) to understand something: you cannot motivate your faculty to do more research or better teaching.

                    They are already maximally motivated people. They did not get the job by being unmotivated. A good chunk of them have more motivation than is healthy for them.

                    Any action you take to "motivate" them is going to be demotivational. Any of them. Yes, even that one that you just thought of. Yes, even the one you heard about from one of your peers at a different institution that you're jealous of.

                    Lean in close, here's the secret: all you have to do is (a) support them in doing their jobs, and (b) not fuck things up.

                    John Faithfull 🌍πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ΄σ §σ ’σ ³σ £σ ΄σ ΏπŸ§‘βœŠπŸ»βœŠπŸΏF This user is from outside of this forum
                    John Faithfull 🌍πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ΄σ §σ ’σ ³σ £σ ΄σ ΏπŸ§‘βœŠπŸ»βœŠπŸΏF This user is from outside of this forum
                    John Faithfull 🌍πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ΄σ §σ ’σ ³σ £σ ΄σ ΏπŸ§‘βœŠπŸ»βœŠπŸΏ
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                    @ricci πŸ’― Not heard it expressed like this before βœŠπŸ™

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                    • Helen LHR Helen LH

                      @ricci If only! At the moment UK universities seem obsessed with profit above all else. They actively making courses worse so they can cut them. They are removing all optionality for interesting modules. Making staff juggle modules from multiple courses and still expect world leading research on approximately the half a day a week that we are not teaching or burdened with unnecessary bureaucracy.

                      Jules she/herA This user is from outside of this forum
                      Jules she/herA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Research_FTW @ricci yes I think the problem here is university staff are generally maximally motivated to find out interesting stuff and then share it, whereas university administration wants them to be maximally motivated to make the university money

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