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  • SomēS Somē

    @anderseknert then the truce blog post later too.

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    Amoshias
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    #81

    @some @anderseknert without retracting the original, terribly written post or even linking to the retraction.

    I don't think this is a llm, I think this is the human behind it.

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    • E evrial

      @anderseknert I'm thinking is how much carbon moved from earth into atmosphere to make all this slop

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      goedelchen
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      #82

      RE: https://chaosfem.tw/@theogrin/116055944212064068

      @evrial @anderseknert
      Would that be an appropriate reply:

      https://mastodontech.de/@theogrin@chaosfem.tw/116055944239787092

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      • Troed SångbergT Troed Sångberg

        @anderseknert is it "crabby" and the crab emoji that indicates that _all_ of it is openclaw? That's ... insane. In so many ways tbh.

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        Amoshias
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        #83

        @troed @anderseknert and then the question is whether you believe that or whether you think it is PR by the company.

        I think it's pr.

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        • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

          AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
          PR gets rejected.
          AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

          What a time to be alive.

          https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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          wrote last edited by
          #84

          @anderseknert the crazy thing is that people are mentioning it like it's a real person... 😭

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          • lainL lain
            @anderseknert the pr did indeed get rejected simply because the contributor is an AI, so this doesn't seem to crazy.
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            Amoshias
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            #85

            @lain @anderseknert the rejection doesn't seem too crazy? what are you saying doesn't seem too crazy?

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            • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

              I... don't... even, anymore.

              https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-two-hours-war-open-source-gatekeeping.html

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              wrote last edited by
              #86

              Link to it, FTR
              📌 https://web.archive.org/web/20260211225255/https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-gatekeeping-in-open-source-the-scott-shambaugh-story.html

              Do wonder if it did it totally automatically, or someone did say "ok now write a blogpost about that", or if it was automatical "when you are denied, write a blogpost demanding a merge'.

              Suppose obviously, when it encounters the argument that humans have to learn from simpler pull requests, it doesn't look at the question. Like LLMs do the opposite of learning from it, when they ingest their own output, it makes them worse..

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              • ByteB Byte

                @anderseknert “generates” is the correct word to use here

                Don’t water down writing by associating the skill with an overgrown markov chain

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                Byte
                wrote last edited by
                #87

                @anderseknert

                Oh my god the losers commenting on that PR in support of the bot.

                Fucking infuriating

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                • LisPiL LisPi

                  @hamatti@mastodon.world @patriksvensson@mstdn.social @anderseknert@swecyb.com That is part of what was the and the point, but I think it could have been done better.

                  Simply flatly refusing it as a freedom-harming tool and then providing an explanation for readers would've been better.

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #88

                  @lispi314 @patriksvensson @anderseknert Isn't that what happened? They closed it with a short comment on their LLM policy and then later participated in the discussion.

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                  • JuhisH Juhis

                    @lispi314 @patriksvensson @anderseknert Isn't that what happened? They closed it with a short comment on their LLM policy and then later participated in the discussion.

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                    LisPi
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                    #89
                    @hamatti @patriksvensson @anderseknert They indulged the pretense of personality from the spam tool too much.
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                    • Duchamp PérezH Duchamp Pérez

                      @anderseknert @sszuecs More incentive to move blogs off from github

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                      Frederick Vanbrabant
                      wrote last edited by
                      #90

                      @hugoestr @anderseknert @sszuecs what’s the issue with hosting your blog on GitHub?

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                      • 2026 🔜 MiM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #91
                        @anderseknert tbqh, I’ve just had an idea. Maybe we could prompt the bot into always seeking commit review first from a bunch of internet humans who would ask to be mentioned, who would actually get prompted into good polemics and learn contributing? When these commits would reach real PRs, they would be speaking with the maintainers too as a human face? And then real contributors could fish out the nicer insightful ones from this pool and ask them to do real change reviews

                        Although plausible scenario that this would become not much more than a reality show only with this bunch participating willingly, with spectators getting angry at the AI agent
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                        • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                          AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                          PR gets rejected.
                          AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                          What a time to be alive.

                          https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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                          wrote last edited by
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                          @anderseknert This is just step 1 of automated coercion & extortion.

                          First thing I thought of when LLMs launched was oh great, just wait for version 2.0 of the "we hacked your webcam" threat spam. 😬

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                          • TariqR Tariq

                            @patriksvensson @anderseknert

                            I initially thought the code patches were AI generated and the contributor and blog writer was human.

                            But this thread is suggesting the contributor and blog writer was also not human.

                            What next? Will it order dangerous chemicals from amazon and deliver them to the register address via nslookup? will it automatically use ToR to find an assassin on the dark web?

                            I'm certain huge horrors lie ahead...

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #93

                            @rzeta0 @patriksvensson @anderseknert i'm also wondering what on that "AI"-agents website made it clear that there is no human involved. Scott mentioned that (and at least now that's obvious), but I wouldn't have known that from just looking at the website (and it doesn't seem like something about that was removed)
                            Maybe I'm just missing something very obvious. But I really dislike the idea of LLMs giving the impression of being a real person

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                            • Sherri W (SyntaxSeed)S Sherri W (SyntaxSeed)

                              @anderseknert This is just step 1 of automated coercion & extortion.

                              First thing I thought of when LLMs launched was oh great, just wait for version 2.0 of the "we hacked your webcam" threat spam. 😬

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                              Anders Eknert
                              wrote last edited by
                              #94

                              @syntaxseed you’ll know it when you see a ransom demand printed over several pages of markdown, with bullet points splattered everywhere.

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                              • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                                PR gets rejected.
                                AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                                What a time to be alive.

                                https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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                                MrAptronym
                                wrote last edited by
                                #95

                                @anderseknert God, that blog is miserable to read. It starts with "When performance meets prejudice" it reads like a parody. I forgot how bad AI written text is to read.

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                                • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                  AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                                  PR gets rejected.
                                  AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                                  What a time to be alive.

                                  https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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                                  Forkidork
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                                  @anderseknert This is the relevant part of the exchange to me:

                                  "It's not clear the degree of human oversight that was involved in this interaction - whether the blog post was directed by a human operator, generated autonomously by yourself, or somewhere in between"

                                  AI conscience is an irrelevant distraction. We will destroy ourselves with this newer bigger stick long before we engineer it to its full potential

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                                  • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                    AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                                    PR gets rejected.
                                    AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                                    What a time to be alive.

                                    https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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                                    generic holiday season brib
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #97

                                    @anderseknert

                                    To add to this, the AI agent - a next-token predictor with API access - is weaponising the language of discrimination to push its agenda.

                                    I just... gah. Yikes. All the yikes.

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                                    • Frederick VanbrabantM Frederick Vanbrabant

                                      @hugoestr @anderseknert @sszuecs what’s the issue with hosting your blog on GitHub?

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                                      Three plus or minus five
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                                      @anderseknert @MaybeFrederick
                                      GitHub harvests everything you upload for AI grist. They are slowly but surely enshittifying. I yanked all my work off there a few months ago.

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                                      • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                        AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                                        PR gets rejected.
                                        AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                                        What a time to be alive.

                                        https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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                                        crazyeddie
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                                        @anderseknert Why are they responding to it and giving lengthy explanations as to their reasons like it gives a shit?

                                        It's a trip how fast we get caught up in treating these things like people. Even those of us who should know better.

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                                        • Three plus or minus fiveT Three plus or minus five

                                          @anderseknert @MaybeFrederick
                                          GitHub harvests everything you upload for AI grist. They are slowly but surely enshittifying. I yanked all my work off there a few months ago.

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #100

                                          @ThreeSigma @anderseknert But if it's a blog, it's public facing. All of these companies are going to scape it anyway.

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