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  • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

    Two things:
    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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    wrote last edited by
    #44

    @Ashedryden But why on god's green earth would you want to use Discord?

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    • KanaMaunaK KanaMauna

      @Ashedryden

      With all that is always happening, at this point I assume state actors are pushing it.

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      wrote last edited by
      #45

      @KanaMauna @Ashedryden
      Thats quite sure, states are either already fascist or at least having actors preparing that way, making sure that people are anywhere ever identified is very important for them

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      • NetravenN Netraven

        @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

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        #46

        @Netraven @Ashedryden those with so-called "Cassandra Syndrome" could have warned of this, but are, alas, cursed with being ignored.
        #actuallyautistic @autistics

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        • BeauM Beau

          @Ashedryden teamspeak is great for voice, but someone NEEDS to make a better alternative for chatting. i haven't found a platform that works nearly as well as discord, and it sucks.

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          #47

          @mochabeau @Ashedryden Agreed, as to the need for a better alternative, however the "QOS rules" conundrum is very difficult to solve:

          https://autistics.life/@d1/116024756035274849

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          • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

            Two things:
            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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            wrote last edited by
            #48

            @Ashedryden Fully agree with you on 2.
            As for two-tier internet - ever since some clever clogs came up with the magic word "premium", segregation was born. Not too many complaints neither, looks like.

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            • Owl EyesD Owl Eyes

              @mochabeau @Ashedryden Agreed, as to the need for a better alternative, however the "QOS rules" conundrum is very difficult to solve:

              https://autistics.life/@d1/116024756035274849

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              wrote last edited by
              #49

              @d1 @Ashedryden is that an issue for chat, though? i got voice calls down great, its the roles and level of categorization over messages is what i miss often

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              • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                Two things:
                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                wrote last edited by
                #50

                @Ashedryden

                And someone is going to make a random identity generator page of any country you choose and random faces of different poses. Complete with random lists of where you went to school, first pet, etc, in a printable fact page. What are they going to do, try and verify?

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                • BeauM Beau

                  @d1 @Ashedryden is that an issue for chat, though? i got voice calls down great, its the roles and level of categorization over messages is what i miss often

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                  #51

                  @mochabeau @Ashedryden well, maybe #Zulip? Or #DeltaChat, if you really want end-to-end encryption of group chats (but no control of roles)? #XMPP also has good group delegation, but the #OMEMO encryption can have less reliable delivery in groups, with various members disappearing for spells of time.

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                  • BeauM Beau

                    @d1 @Ashedryden is that an issue for chat, though? i got voice calls down great, its the roles and level of categorization over messages is what i miss often

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                    #52

                    @mochabeau @Ashedryden as to teamspeak, I would personally try to find something #OpenSource

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                    • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                      Two things:
                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #53

                      @Ashedryden You can still chat by typing without the video on IRC.

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                      • Koen Hufkens, PhDK Koen Hufkens, PhD

                        @Ashedryden Someone should make a biometric randomization app already, which takes your likeness and then change the core face metrics randomly.

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #54

                        @koen_hufkens @Ashedryden bio-obfuscation, basically a deepfake where the end face is ai generated.

                        A pretty good idea.
                        The hardest part is doing it in a undetectable way (catching the camera feed and changing it before it reaches the requesting app)

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                        • retechR retech

                          @Ashedryden What protections do we have as users? None. I'll willingly go into the dark over this. Eventually I'll have to use pigeons and smoke signals to communicate with the world.

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                          #55

                          @retech @Ashedryden

                          Can't rely on pigeons either...

                          https://birdsarentreal.com/pages/faq

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                          • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                            Two things:
                            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #56

                            @Ashedryden

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                            • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                              Two things:
                              1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                              2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                              #57

                              @Ashedryden @wellingtonrock @verge

                              My initial feeling that someone simply wants to kill such platforms entirely.

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                              • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                Two things:
                                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                #58

                                @Ashedryden It's more likely I'll be giving up the services that require these things.

                                Some will be difficult, of course, but if enough of us do walk away will that have an impact?

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                                • Owl EyesD Owl Eyes

                                  @mochabeau @Ashedryden well, maybe #Zulip? Or #DeltaChat, if you really want end-to-end encryption of group chats (but no control of roles)? #XMPP also has good group delegation, but the #OMEMO encryption can have less reliable delivery in groups, with various members disappearing for spells of time.

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                                  #59

                                  @d1 @mochabeau @Ashedryden

                                  IMHO, #Movim by @movim is pretty good. And it's all standard #XMPP, i.e. no vendor lock-in.

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                                  • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                    Two things:
                                    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #60

                                    @Ashedryden

                                    They already have your ID like 10x over from all the other things you've been forced to give it for and all the public data breaches, so it barely matters anyway for most people.

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                                    • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                      Two things:
                                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #61

                                      @Ashedryden

                                      We already have a two tiered internet with Facebook and Instagram etc.

                                      I don't have an account on those things, never will, and I have only used Discord once and will be deleting my account now.

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                                      • Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›A Ashe Dryden πŸ™†πŸΌβ€β™€οΈπŸˆπŸˆβ€β¬›

                                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                        Two things:
                                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #62

                                        @Ashedryden Finally a legitimate use for AI image generators

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                                        • MacCruiskeenM MacCruiskeen

                                          @annika @Ashedryden Now, not only do they know you're a dog, they know what breed you are, what kind of kibble you eat, and how often you go out for walkies.

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #63

                                          @maccruiskeen @annika @Ashedryden Is the age verification in dog years?

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