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  3. Jack Dorsey skipped ActivityPub, built AtProto, lost Twitter, funded Bluesky, watched it become a company with VCs and a board, said it was "repeating all the mistakes," left, and now funds Nostr.

Jack Dorsey skipped ActivityPub, built AtProto, lost Twitter, funded Bluesky, watched it become a company with VCs and a board, said it was "repeating all the mistakes," left, and now funds Nostr.

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    #261

    @rakoo @ricci now that Gargron is out of the way, I really hope @mellifluousbox and @renchap bring local-only posts to mainline Mastodon. It'd be such a huge help to moderators & server admins, it's not funny, and that's before you even get to the needs of server-local communities that you *don't* want federating.

    Also, custom collections support to support addressing for Groups would be fantastic. I know Jesse from Frequency already has an implementation of that on top of a mastodon codebase

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      @ricci @rakoo are you abbreviating AP as AT Protocol? Because AP is how I (and many others) write ActivityPub β€” AT Protocol is ATP or sometimes AT (the IETF WG is ATP)

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      @thisismissem @rakoo I'm using AP to mean ActivityPub. I was agreeing with your point that in many spaces, AP doesn't necessarily line up with community boundaries - but also pointing out that sometimes it does, and this happens much more naturally with AP than atproto

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        @ricci @rakoo that shouldn't happen!

        It's a bug, at least, that's how it's described today.

        This is how it's envisioned to work: https://whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3m2j6ccx2bs2t

        Essentially, if you're on a bsky PDS, and you act poorly on bsky.app, as long as you've not done anything strictly illegal or network abuse, the ban should only be on bsky.app β€” though they could also tell you: hey, we don't want to host your repo/account anymore, please find another PDS host (and provide instructions and state "even though we're asking you to move, moving will not change you being banned from bsky.app"

        The only time your repo should be taken down is *if* you post strictly illegal content that your PDS host has liabilities for (CSAM, TVEC, etc), and bsky.app would send your PDS admin a notification informing them that bsky has detected that content on their server.

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          @thisismissem @rakoo I'm using AP to mean ActivityPub. I was agreeing with your point that in many spaces, AP doesn't necessarily line up with community boundaries - but also pointing out that sometimes it does, and this happens much more naturally with AP than atproto

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          @ricci @rakoo ooh, thought I should check because you said this "said that neither AP nor activitypub is directly" and M nor M doesn't really make sense. Felt like you meant "AP nor ATP" there?

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            @ricci @rakoo arguably a repo should probably advertise it's (primary) relays, which could help here (though would be complex.

            Relays should be simple pipes, and only network level abuse would be moderated (or that strictly illegal content that PDSes should action).

            That's the same as like how cloudflare describes itself (even though they took down switter)

            But I think we'll get there with regards to correct moderation at the correct layers soon or eventually. I definitely want to see this fixed

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