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What is Bonesmashing?

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  • dinozombie๐ŸŒต๐Ÿฆ‡D dinozombie๐ŸŒต๐Ÿฆ‡

    @cstross @Doomscroll oh yeah?? We'll see about that Mr. Knowitall! *smashes face with hammer*

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    @dinozombie
    Take THAT, Elon!
    @cstross @Doomscroll

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    • Pete Alex Harris๐Ÿฆก๐Ÿ•ธ๏ธ๐ŸŒฒ/โˆž๐ŸชโˆซP Pete Alex Harris๐Ÿฆก๐Ÿ•ธ๏ธ๐ŸŒฒ/โˆž๐Ÿชโˆซ

      @Doomscroll @cstross
      Self-harming behaviour isn't best analysed through the lenses of vanity or politics, probably.

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      @petealexharris

      mental health and political circumstances are deeply intertwined, particularly when political-economic conditions induce specific inhumane circumstances.

      (mark fisher analyzes this pretty deeply in various books of his, and is worth reading for his insights here.)

      @Doomscroll @cstross

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        @cstross Elite capture isnโ€™t new. In 19th-century German universities, young men carved sabre scars into their faces as proof of status(stolen valor). Now the stolen valor is proximity: influencers orbiting power, sometimes crossing into it. Clavicular at the party, then at the policy table. Spectacle is now access. 21st century is weird, and weโ€™re only a quarter of a way into it.

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        @Doomscroll @cstross Some young men at German universities still carve their faces with sabres.

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        • ๐’€ญ๐’‚—๐’†  ENKI ][eE ๐’€ญ๐’‚—๐’†  ENKI ][e

          @petealexharris

          mental health and political circumstances are deeply intertwined, particularly when political-economic conditions induce specific inhumane circumstances.

          (mark fisher analyzes this pretty deeply in various books of his, and is worth reading for his insights here.)

          @Doomscroll @cstross

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          @enkiv2 @Doomscroll @cstross
          No doubt. But if people were calling anorexia "ribsmaxxing" I'd be side-eying that too.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            What is Bonesmashing? Inside the Extreme Looksmaxxer Technique

            As looksmaxxing enters our lexicon, the practice of bonesmashingโ€”tapping your face with a hammer to shape your bone structureโ€”is trailing close behind.

            โ€œBonesmashing is big enough that doctors have sent at least two letters to the Journal of Stomatology, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery warning about the practiceโ€™s spread on social media.โ€

            https://www.gq.com/story/what-is-bonesmashing-looksmaxxing-technique

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            @cstross
            /me checks date.
            Damn it people!

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            • Pete Alex Harris๐Ÿฆก๐Ÿ•ธ๏ธ๐ŸŒฒ/โˆž๐ŸชโˆซP Pete Alex Harris๐Ÿฆก๐Ÿ•ธ๏ธ๐ŸŒฒ/โˆž๐Ÿชโˆซ

              @enkiv2 @Doomscroll @cstross
              No doubt. But if people were calling anorexia "ribsmaxxing" I'd be side-eying that too.

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              @petealexharris

              I think anorexia nervosa is a pretty good comparison to be honest. From what I understand, the consensus has softened a bit since I was paying close attention, but it used to be that anorexia nervosa (in its classic Karen Carpenter manifestation) was widely understood as a response to political-economic pressures.

              Some mental illness is fully organic in origin -- stemming from genetics or injury -- but a lot of it is the direct result of interacting with an inhumane environment. The three causes are not mutually exclusive, and mental illness caused by one can cause or exacerbate that caused by another. This appears to quite certainly be the third case -- interacting with an inhuman environment (the modern world) has produced inhumane pressures (these guys think they are worthless if they don't have sufficiently sharp cheekbones), and the inhumaneness of the world is a political problem (arguably, it is the only political problem, and all other political problems stem from flawed attempts to solve it).

              @Doomscroll @cstross

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                @petealexharris

                I think anorexia nervosa is a pretty good comparison to be honest. From what I understand, the consensus has softened a bit since I was paying close attention, but it used to be that anorexia nervosa (in its classic Karen Carpenter manifestation) was widely understood as a response to political-economic pressures.

                Some mental illness is fully organic in origin -- stemming from genetics or injury -- but a lot of it is the direct result of interacting with an inhumane environment. The three causes are not mutually exclusive, and mental illness caused by one can cause or exacerbate that caused by another. This appears to quite certainly be the third case -- interacting with an inhuman environment (the modern world) has produced inhumane pressures (these guys think they are worthless if they don't have sufficiently sharp cheekbones), and the inhumaneness of the world is a political problem (arguably, it is the only political problem, and all other political problems stem from flawed attempts to solve it).

                @Doomscroll @cstross

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                @petealexharris

                (before anybody gets up my ass: yes, I know Karen Carpenter was bulemic. iirc she was also anorexic? but the whole world kind of understood eating disorders through the lens of what happened to her, for a long time, and her case neatly fits a model that I've seen people take seriously as far back as the mid-70s and as late as 2010.)

                @Doomscroll @cstross

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  What is Bonesmashing? Inside the Extreme Looksmaxxer Technique

                  As looksmaxxing enters our lexicon, the practice of bonesmashingโ€”tapping your face with a hammer to shape your bone structureโ€”is trailing close behind.

                  โ€œBonesmashing is big enough that doctors have sent at least two letters to the Journal of Stomatology, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery warning about the practiceโ€™s spread on social media.โ€

                  https://www.gq.com/story/what-is-bonesmashing-looksmaxxing-technique

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                  @cstross what the actual fuck did I just read

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                  • ๐’€ญ๐’‚—๐’†  ENKI ][eE ๐’€ญ๐’‚—๐’†  ENKI ][e

                    @petealexharris

                    (before anybody gets up my ass: yes, I know Karen Carpenter was bulemic. iirc she was also anorexic? but the whole world kind of understood eating disorders through the lens of what happened to her, for a long time, and her case neatly fits a model that I've seen people take seriously as far back as the mid-70s and as late as 2010.)

                    @Doomscroll @cstross

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                    @petealexharris

                    With regard to terminology:

                    looksmaxxing is the term used in the community of people who encourage each other to do this form of self harm. I try not to learn any of the bizarre and upsetting terminology used by pro-ana online communities, but there's plenty of it!

                    @Doomscroll @cstross

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      What is Bonesmashing? Inside the Extreme Looksmaxxer Technique

                      As looksmaxxing enters our lexicon, the practice of bonesmashingโ€”tapping your face with a hammer to shape your bone structureโ€”is trailing close behind.

                      โ€œBonesmashing is big enough that doctors have sent at least two letters to the Journal of Stomatology, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery warning about the practiceโ€™s spread on social media.โ€

                      https://www.gq.com/story/what-is-bonesmashing-looksmaxxing-technique

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                      @cstross Darwin awards material.

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        What is Bonesmashing? Inside the Extreme Looksmaxxer Technique

                        As looksmaxxing enters our lexicon, the practice of bonesmashingโ€”tapping your face with a hammer to shape your bone structureโ€”is trailing close behind.

                        โ€œBonesmashing is big enough that doctors have sent at least two letters to the Journal of Stomatology, Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery warning about the practiceโ€™s spread on social media.โ€

                        https://www.gq.com/story/what-is-bonesmashing-looksmaxxing-technique

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                        @cstross Humans were a mistake.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          @Doomscroll It *is* rigged, but hitting yourself in the face with a hammer isn't going to induce the billionaire oligopoly to share any of its stolen valor with you.

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                          @cstross @Doomscroll Retrophrenology is next.

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                            @mark @cstross yeah, probably not.... but bones do strengten under stress, just like muscles... and that is why kids jump and stomp around... to get "shocks" is important for the bone growth and density. Also reason why space travel is tricky. Hammer to the jaw... well...

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