RE: https://mastodon.social/@mcc/116049931440045406

Occupy Nickelodeon/YTV

@mcc this is true of every decade actually, I find the mid/end of each decade and the beginning of the best one tend to have more in common with each other than the actual full decades

@nazokiyoubinbou @plantarum I'm surprised you're the one who said this, since I said I wouldn't judge I didn't want to say anything

@nazokiyoubinbou @milla I'm not going to keep defending Star Trek, and all fiction makes up explanations and technobabble to justify stuff, but if you're actually interested in the explanations given to how things work to critique those, the technical manual has a lot of interesting detail, and also OOC notes from the behind the scenes people who acknowledge the problems with explanations or why the thing had to be invented to explain X or how they came up with it, and also the weird Easter Egg stuff like how often they reference Dirty Pair

@nazokiyoubinbou @milla https://archive.org/details/TNGTechManual/page/n4/mode/1up

If you're actually curious, it's here

@nazokiyoubinbou @milla Star Trek explains the inertia stuff with "inertial dampeners" and they explain why the ship shakes when they get shot by the inertial dampeners briefly getting interrupted, there's obviously a lot to nitpick about it but at least they provide an explanation

@otherdracula yeah, if they executed it that way it might actually be interesting, but they didn't, then he joined the WCW/ECW Alliance to fight WWE as their leader, then 9/11 happened at Kurt Angle had to turn face to be patriotic and spray Austin down with milk, then he lost to the Rock and the Alliance ended, and the next day he was a face again and acting just like the old authority hating Stone Cold and we all pretended nothing happened in the previous year

@otherdracula on the other side, Austin also tried to kill Triple H when he came back and was still good and angry that Triple H tried to kill him, he picked up the bus Triple H was in using a crane and dropped it from a high distance

And that's also water under the bridge because Austin talked to Null the Gull and is a villain now and so Triple H's npc script changed

@otherdracula they tried to justify it as he respects Triple H cared so much about winning he would try to kill somebody over it, but also, the justification of the whole plotline is that Steve Austin got hit but a car which took him out of action for almost a year, then he comes back but because of the injury he's insecure about his ability to be himself so he turns evil to get Vince McMahon's help (who they also have tried to basically kill each other on various occasions) to win a championship, and then he teams up with the guy who put him in this position in the first place? I guess cuz he's evil now and is like actually opposing authority is bad, look where it got me, now I should join them and be evil

I guess it makes sense if you look at it from a certain angle but also it doesn't

@nazokiyoubinbou @5easypieces next to the "on the anatomy of the daleks" 600 page medical reference text

@nazokiyoubinbou @xgranade always destroy

@nazokiyoubinbou @5easypieces I know it's for dramatic reasons and I absolutely love the movie and the ending fight but it always shocked me how many photon torpedoes they had to fire on a shieldless bird of prey in Star Trek 6, like the first homing torpedo should have destroyed it xD

@5easypieces @nazokiyoubinbou it was always weird to me that shields could be weakened by phasers but also by photon torpedoes which did even more damage to weaken them. Like I thought maybe you could drain the shields with phasers and then use the photons on the actual ship. Also that shields can be specifically weakened in certain areas by concentrating on them and they don't just work as a single energy field. And yes I have the TNG technical manual I know how it's "supposed" to work and I know why it's done that way for tension reasons, and it doesn't ruin Trek for me, I am happy to live vicariously in that world and go "oh no, you better redirect energy from the aft shields to the front!" but still, it is really weird

@MorningSong @nazokiyoubinbou I defend nothing, not the Matrix sequels, not the Star Wars prequels, if it's bad it's bad and I'm not going to spend brain energy trying to rehabilitate them just because they're in a franchise I liked the original things in

Like I always say when people constantly revisit the prequels to find new meaning in them or talk about the newest mid Star Wars thing and how actually...

"Would we be spending this much energy trying to justify how it all makes sense if it wasn't named Star Wars?"

@nazokiyoubinbou @MorningSong when I first saw the matrix and they said if you die in the matrix you die in real life I was like that doesn't make sense, and I really really thought the ending would be that Neo realizes it doesn't make sense and that's how he survives death by not believing in it, mind you I also thought he would basically just live as a consciousness in the Matrix without need for a body at the end

@nazokiyoubinbou @bikubi I like the next generation episode "The Next Phase" because it's a great character episode about Geordi and Ro, but nothing about it made any sense to me, even as a child, I was like how do they breathe! why aren't they falling through the floor? shouldn't they just phase through everything and be left behind by the Enterprise as it flies around?

@bikubi also when people phase out of normal physical existence, how they breathe, or even move, if gravity affects them, etc

@xerozohar I liked that they kept Thomas Riker, that was fresh to me, but I hated that they didn't do anything with him but bring him back for one ratings baiting early season DS9 episode (they even advertised it as Riker guest stars in DS9) and then have him just be thrown in a Cardassian gulag somewhere forever I guess

@bikubi I also wonder how they breathe

@Sobex yeah there's no consent, I've seen justifications of it, I know why Yuri fans like it, but to me it's just the aro/ace version of "you can turn a lesbian straight by forcing physical contact on them and they realize they like it", I know people will say "she wasn't aro/ace to begin with, she was just finding herself, she just didn't meet the right person, etc" I know they have a discussion in the manga with an ace character, but i still see it as "see sometimes lack of consent and the magical kiss is needed to force you to realize you actually love somebody/your sexuality is wrong"