@nixCraft I'm 45 and just distanced myself from someone draining my energy. Best thing I'm done for a long while.

@nixCraft Only one can be the first to reach the console port

@zak Hehe. Maybe 10-15

@asmw Oh, so the problem is new? It has worked with the same setup until recently?

@asmw and your wireguard tunnel is not setup to allow local network otuside the tunnel?

@asmw ok

@asmw I would think a settiong in your router is to blame. When you connect to an outside address for your server stuff, like nextcloud.yourdomain.com then your router see that the IP of that is pointing to itself.
I think there are settings in most routers for this but I don't know what it's called.
When your mac is connecting using your phone it's like it's on the outside and everything works great.

@asmw Ok so then it at least seems that there is nothing wrong with routing or tls etc. What service is it? You had multiple different services and they all do this?

@asmw hum ok. Can you try curl? I'm no expert but with some switch I think you can get a quite verbose output. Maybe that will tell what is blocking you for that long

@asmw Is there any service you can try to connect to using curl to figure out what is happening? Or maybe open devtools in firefox to see what is happening.

@itsfoss Debian

@evan if you for example retire in Sweden and want to spend the rest of your days in another country, you will live of your pension money from Sweden. How much money you get (how much is taken from you in taxes etc) is decided by whom is running the country. So yes they should be able to vote because there’s things that directly concerns them