@kravietz

>"mastodon is funded by the eu"
not
"mastodon is funded by europol, frontex, etc"

some ppl here take pretty maximalist stances in their criticisms, but most (all?) ppl who have a problem with matrix/element customers are bothered specifically by the cops-and-military part

mastodon's primary source of funding is not any "violent enforcement" entity within the eu, afaik

im also not necessarily agreeing with all of the criticisms, its hard to squeeze nuanced takes into 500chars

@kravietz @couscous @aral @element @ahltorp

the imho central point is, will the relationship with institutional customers shape the service and over time start to resemble the relationship that bigtech has. and that is a hard to quantify risk as a user.

@kravietz @couscous @aral @element @ahltorp

I see it that opponents view it as "blood money" that poisons the project, and supporters see it as "the police/military have these fuckloads of money, might as well have them go to some commons"

now, is "tapping MIC budgets for a good cause" enough to outweigh "selling your services to the oppressor"?

two things can be true at once, and there's an (at least perceived) risk of the project getting too chummy with the violence-dispensing institutions