@jnazarene Tutan kohdalla fiilis on vähän sellainen, että taas on yksi aidattu karsina, johon joku yritys koittaa saada käyttäjän nalkkiin, vaikka salauksen tekeminen helpoksi onkin hyvä juttu.

@SamiMaatta Tämä menee sinne keskiluokkaisen klientilismin ytimeen. Halutaan maksaa vain niistä asioista ja palveluista, joita käytetään, pidetään yhteiskuntaa puhtaasti pelkkänä abstraktiona, ja kartetaan yleistä hyvää, jos se vaatii itseltä panostusta. Lisäksi keskitytään mittaamaan vain kustannuksia.
Oikeastaan sama logiikka, jolla on päädytty valitsemaan "edullisia vaihtoehtoja" ja "hyviä kauppasuhteita", jotka tekevät meistä riippuvaisia suurvaltojen oikuista.

@woo @worik @ljrk @afewbugs People doing houselhold chores as described earlier often are within yelling distance from each other and there are no single solutions that solve all the needs all the time.

@harriehq I understand. Also here I must say that while what you described is also in some ways part of my culture here in Finland, it's also a little different, at least in my experience. There's that and my male bias. @afewbugs

@fishidwardrobe Why are there examples of taskmanagers with recurring tasks then? Why is it so hard to accept a solution to a feature request that is seemingly popular but gets ignored usually with "we value stability more" nothingburger arguments? https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/pull/2318 @afewbugs

@harriehq it. For me it means cooking, emptying the dishwasher, hoovering, washing the sinks and toilets etc. That's me showing I can make my loved ones' day at least half decent. I don't need appraisal for that, because it's necessary to balance the daily load somehow. A reminder for some of the less routinely occurring stuff would make life easier though.
I struggle with organizing objects that do not yet have a clear destination or space to put them into, so I do other things. @afewbugs

@harriehq I think most of us benefit from lists, at least until they figure out the routine. If routines are hard to form, then lists are necessary. The whole stereotypes and roles thing is cultural and true, but it's also not something written in stone that can't be changed. I do not know what I want to say with this. Maybe that if you have learned something at a young age or out of necessity or it's part of your "love-language" it's "easy" even if you don't particulary like or enjoy @afewbugs

@worik Sometimes writing it down with a pen on a paper helps to remember, and that's something you may or may not get with a computer. Sometimes a sticky note on the door works the best. @ljrk @afewbugs

@worik You wont believe how useful automated reminders are and how often my partner encourages me to make more of them. She also uses them a lot. But yeah, it actually is useful to have for example a tri or bi-weekly recurring timed reminder to change the bedsheets etc. To be able to set them from the web interface is just neat because that's the closest to platform agnostic you can get with nearly no effort. @ljrk @afewbugs

@KayEllen We use Deck for shopping lists and I know the items can have deadline/expiration, but recurring tasks? I dunno. @ljrk @afewbugs

@pdl The web interface not having that functionality sucks, and I think there should be feature parity between the app and web interface. Especially if the assumption is that only Android and iOS get that feature from official Nextcloud clients. @vfrmedia @emily_s @afewbugs