Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
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Org-mode has good recurrence, plus/minus all the decisions being right there in the text file.
It’s interesting comparing how org-mode and Todoist handle some things that aren’t obvious re. what we want the system to “just do”
It’s MORE interesting, cough cough, that there are *two* open and well established task systems with recurrence and it still isn’t managed by a big attempt. (Meaning org-mode and cron. )
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@afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech that sounds like the shiny PFI hospital in my home town. Tony Blair was *so proud* of the whole thing.
But they gave the atrium a glass roof three stories high. This did not impress the receptionists expected to work there when they were sweating so much they struggled to hold onto the phones. Neither were they at all happy with the absolute cacophony every time it rained, meaning they were shouting sensitive information to patients to be heard.
The rest of the building was similarly unsuitable. The doors were only just wide enough to get a hospital bed through. Porters had to work out complicated ways of opening the door, holding it with one foot, squeezing the bed through, and then going after it. They could have had extra space for wide, swinging doors, but they wasted so much on the damned atrium!@jetlagjen @afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech
Possibly an urban myth, but an award winning building in the US intended to be a university library never got used as such because the architect overlooked that books weigh quite a lot and the floor decks were not strong enough...
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@jetlagjen @afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech
Possibly an urban myth, but an award winning building in the US intended to be a university library never got used as such because the architect overlooked that books weigh quite a lot and the floor decks were not strong enough...
@EricBranse @jetlagjen @afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech
Pretty sure this one is myth. I heard it back in the late 80s about our college campus library, which was in fine condition
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@EricBranse @jetlagjen @afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech
Pretty sure this one is myth. I heard it back in the late 80s about our college campus library, which was in fine condition
@pseudonym @EricBranse @jetlagjen @afewbugs @kitten_tech
Yes, I heard it about the University of York library, which was built on the side of a slope and the story was that once the books were added it started sliding downwards.
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@afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech that sounds like the shiny PFI hospital in my home town. Tony Blair was *so proud* of the whole thing.
But they gave the atrium a glass roof three stories high. This did not impress the receptionists expected to work there when they were sweating so much they struggled to hold onto the phones. Neither were they at all happy with the absolute cacophony every time it rained, meaning they were shouting sensitive information to patients to be heard.
The rest of the building was similarly unsuitable. The doors were only just wide enough to get a hospital bed through. Porters had to work out complicated ways of opening the door, holding it with one foot, squeezing the bed through, and then going after it. They could have had extra space for wide, swinging doors, but they wasted so much on the damned atrium!@afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech @jetlagjen Does this hospital happen to be on a corner opposite a reservoir, McDonalds and B&Q and next to a Morrisons?
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@suearcher @jetlagjen @afewbugs @kitten_tech
If something has won architecture awards, I know it's probably inaccessible for me at a sensory level while being "accessible" on paper cos our regulations are minimal.
@NatalyaD @suearcher @afewbugs @kitten_tech there's a ramp, what more do you want‽
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@afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech @jetlagjen Does this hospital happen to be on a corner opposite a reservoir, McDonalds and B&Q and next to a Morrisons?
@rbairwell @afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech none of the above.
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@NatalyaD @suearcher @afewbugs @kitten_tech there's a ramp, what more do you want‽
@jetlagjen @suearcher @afewbugs @kitten_tech yup, never mind the acoustics are horrific, there is mega sunlight glare or evil spotlights, or that the doors are bastard heavy cos they cheaped out on electronic door openers.
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@jetlagjen @suearcher @afewbugs @kitten_tech yup, never mind the acoustics are horrific, there is mega sunlight glare or evil spotlights, or that the doors are bastard heavy cos they cheaped out on electronic door openers.
@NatalyaD @jetlagjen @suearcher @afewbugs @kitten_tech
The door at one of the local motor factors has a sign in English and Romanian, Albanian, Polish and a few other languages because it opens inwards rather than outwards - it must be pulled to open (which isn't immediately obvious) and you are very likely to be carrying something like brake discs (they are heavy!), a starter battery, bulk oil - I was thinking about how this design has caused an entire worlds worth of mechanics to curse it (although if there are many people inside those in the queue usually hold open the door for whoever has heavy stuff)
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@afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech that sounds like the shiny PFI hospital in my home town. Tony Blair was *so proud* of the whole thing.
But they gave the atrium a glass roof three stories high. This did not impress the receptionists expected to work there when they were sweating so much they struggled to hold onto the phones. Neither were they at all happy with the absolute cacophony every time it rained, meaning they were shouting sensitive information to patients to be heard.
The rest of the building was similarly unsuitable. The doors were only just wide enough to get a hospital bed through. Porters had to work out complicated ways of opening the door, holding it with one foot, squeezing the bed through, and then going after it. They could have had extra space for wide, swinging doors, but they wasted so much on the damned atrium!@jetlagjen @afewbugs @suearcher @kitten_tech Hospital doors are apparently a big deal. When New Addenbrooke's was built there was stuff in the news about how many hundreds of different designs of door were needed for all the different functions.
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@NatalyaD @jetlagjen @suearcher @afewbugs @kitten_tech
The door at one of the local motor factors has a sign in English and Romanian, Albanian, Polish and a few other languages because it opens inwards rather than outwards - it must be pulled to open (which isn't immediately obvious) and you are very likely to be carrying something like brake discs (they are heavy!), a starter battery, bulk oil - I was thinking about how this design has caused an entire worlds worth of mechanics to curse it (although if there are many people inside those in the queue usually hold open the door for whoever has heavy stuff)
@vfrmedia @NatalyaD @jetlagjen @suearcher @kitten_tech that's amazing. The entire world, united in their hatred of one shitty door.
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@vfrmedia @NatalyaD @jetlagjen @suearcher @kitten_tech that's amazing. The entire world, united in their hatred of one shitty door.
@vfrmedia @NatalyaD @jetlagjen @suearcher @kitten_tech thinking about it, the same thing seems to have happened with the entire world hating one shitty president
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As a cleaner, married to a caretaker, I can assert that architects have never had to clean or maintain a building....
I am told that a reliable technique for learning new swear words is to ask a firefighter about architects.
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@vfrmedia @NatalyaD @jetlagjen @suearcher @kitten_tech thinking about it, the same thing seems to have happened with the entire world hating one shitty president
Sadly there seem to be quite a few people who like that shitty president, billionaires etc. Of course they're the SAME fuckers who like evil buildings, cos they never have to use them, they always have a nice cosy vintage style office with perfect for them temperature control, lighting, furniture, comfort and of course staff to run around after their every whim.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs There is not. There was a third party plugin which added support for household-oriented chore tracking but it is unmaintained. Your further conjecture has the ring of truth, in my experience.
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The first type is the one that tends to get celebrated, awarded and rewarded, the second type are necessary for everyone to stay healthy and everything to keep ticking over, to create an environment in which the first type that impresses everyone can happen. At home we call these housework or care work, in a professional context we call them routine maintenance or "glue"
@afewbugs
I've been thinking about this in the context of sustainability. We do over-value the new, when most of the work in the world is maintenance.How do we as a society shift what we value? Sure, ditch patriarchy, but it's a value heavily ingrained in society.
UBI would likely do it - a lot of "unskilled" but essential work would pay a lot better.
But I also wonder if we could somehow shift also with media or education.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs the CalDAV protocol isn't clear on this, so not natively, but you can use apps like Tasks.org or macOS/iOS Reminders app and it works well.
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@christianlupus From my perspective the way Todoist does it works very well, you mark the task as completed and it reappears the next day/in whatever interval you set it to reappear
@afewbugs Ok, I see you have some clear understanding in mind how it should work.
What should happen if a task is not done in time? Duplication or "nothing"?
What happens if you change the tasks details (title, description, progress, time, reminder) while the task is still active (not yet done)? What happens if it is already done? Is the task even there after being done?
You should be able to formulate a clear feature request to see if it gets some traction.
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Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now
@afewbugs As a person whose primary job centers around regular technical & content maintenance, while everyone around me thinks that the initial writing and content creation is the more important task, I second every word in this thread.
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Guess which one usually gets handed to which gender. Men tend to get the one off high profile, highly regarded tasks (build the shed or the kitchen or the database), women tend to get the recurring tasks (clean the house, make sure the invoices are paid on time) that don't get the respect the one off tasks get but without which the big one off projects couldn't happen.
@afewbugs So they never learn from their mistakes because someone else pays the price on their behalf. Or is it 'takes their punishment'? I don't believe in development and maintenance teams. The '10x developers' (or 1000x with their AI slave) need to be slowed down, to deal with the consequences of their massive egos. We want those who write code that doesn't break to write more code, not them. The rock stars break too many TVs.
