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  3. Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

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  • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

    @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

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    @schrotthaufen @cstross we live in a society

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

      I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

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      @cstross

      The BBC seems to be pushing it too. Their headlines might be adequate warning, but they're also putting out stories about our politicians planning a "British FBI". I am wary of our bosses.

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

        I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

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        @cstross Just to be clear here, I think websites and apps just autoplaying content is not just an annoyance. It's an issue of consent. I want to be able to actively decide see which content I see and hear, and which content I don't. I should not be subjected to content I don't want to see or hear without me explicitly choosing (and with that, consenting) to do so.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

          I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

          Jess👾J This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cstross In the rare instances I do choose to share extremely disturbing things, I don't even solely rely on CWs since many people - myself included - auto expand them. I'll make the URL unclickable so someone has to copy paste it if they want to see it. Surround it with backticks if your software supports markdown. Put a space in the URL. Something so only those who actually choose to see things that may haunt dreams see it.

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          • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

            @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

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            @schrotthaufen @cstross It’s just another thing on the long list of awful, obviously wrong, definitely still illegal things which some techbro asshole did once, and which large numbers of people now do routinely.

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            • Jess👾J Jess👾

              @cstross In the rare instances I do choose to share extremely disturbing things, I don't even solely rely on CWs since many people - myself included - auto expand them. I'll make the URL unclickable so someone has to copy paste it if they want to see it. Surround it with backticks if your software supports markdown. Put a space in the URL. Something so only those who actually choose to see things that may haunt dreams see it.

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              @JessTheUnstill @cstross Yes! I see that a lot in infosec, too: Potentially malicious websites are often shared with [ ] around dots, like http://example[.]com/evil/site, to prevent accidental clicks.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

                I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

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                @cstross indeed

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                • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

                  @cstross I'm sorry, but people need to see and be horrified by it. The Vietnam war ended because in part of the images broadcast on TV. The Afghan war dragged on because it was sanitized. Instead of complaining that you had to see it, maybe urge your representatives to defund and dismantle ICE. If you aren't American, urge your leaders to take action against my government.

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                  @farbel @cstross The Vietnam War was 50 years ago. There was no media saturation, it was 15 years before CNN gave us that first glimpse of round-the-clock news everywhere.

                  You can't compare the two.

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                  • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

                    @cstross I'm sorry, but people need to see and be horrified by it. The Vietnam war ended because in part of the images broadcast on TV. The Afghan war dragged on because it was sanitized. Instead of complaining that you had to see it, maybe urge your representatives to defund and dismantle ICE. If you aren't American, urge your leaders to take action against my government.

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                    @farbel @cstross

                    https://chaosfem.tw/@Athena/115940721978340127

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                    • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

                      @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

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                      @schrotthaufen @cstross I wouldn't call it snuff? It's not made and shared for (a weird form) of entertainment.

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                      • A.A. Delafin, radicalM A.A. Delafin, radical

                        @schrotthaufen @cstross I wouldn't call it snuff? It's not made and shared for (a weird form) of entertainment.

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                        @mysteriarch @schrotthaufen Intent doesn't matter: it's how it's received.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          @mysteriarch @schrotthaufen Intent doesn't matter: it's how it's received.

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                          @cstross I don't disagree with the question for a CW.
                          Context matters etc. Still don't think 'snuff' is a correct description but that's maybe nitpicking a bit.
                          @schrotthaufen

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                          • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

                            @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

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                            @schrotthaufen @cstross

                            Gulf War 1, which pretty much "made" the 24×7 rolling news channel as a profitable business.
                            Ever since then, profits have been made by sharing (and therefore recording & editing) "snuff".
                            People follow the leads they're shown. "If," as another trope goes, "you can't see it, you can't be it."

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

                              I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

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                              @cstross
                              "Most people learn to save themselves by artificially limiting the content of consciousness."
                              - Thomas Ligotti
                              #doomed

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                @farbel I'm not a fucking American, I don't get a vote in this shit, I DO NOT NEED IT IN MY EYEBALLS. Go away until you've learned to read for context.

                                It is not okay to share your snuff videos with the whole world without a content warning. You are hurting people. Period.

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                                @cstross @farbel

                                Exactly

                                "People need to see this shit"
                                Okay. I agree. *Someone* needs to see this so things cannot get swept under the carpet.

                                "EVERYONE needs to see this shit"
                                No. People who are easily traumatised by such things do not need to have them forced down their throats.

                                "People" v "EVERYONE". A very important distinction.

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

                                  I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

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                                  @cstross I have also enabled "Always hide media" and unchecked "Auto-play animated GIFs" for precisely that reason. I don't need to have that stuff shoved in my face - which incidentally are mainly posts that also don't have a CW, nor proper hashtags so I cannot add a filter for it.

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

                                    I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

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                                    @cstross

                                    Bluesky is no respecter of "no autoplay". I don't even log-in.

                                    (Though, I don't mind when it's Real Amanda Rae. Hubba-Hubba-Hubba. Aawwooo! 😜)

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      @Remittancegirl I think the people who don't realize they're being damaged by this saturation coverage of atrocities are the ones receiving the most long-term harm.

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                                      @cstross @Remittancegirl

                                      I think the people who are getting murdered in the footage, are receiving significantly more harm.

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                                      • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

                                        @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

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                                        @schrotthaufen @cstross

                                        i don't watch these videos either & i agree that they should have CW... but it becomes OK to share this content when the US media & gov't is telling lies about the victim's actions

                                        for US historical context, (which no one in this thread appears to recall?) Emmett Till's mother would not allow a closed casket because she wanted the world to see the horror so it could not be forgotten-- it was the only way she could get any justice for the crime against her child

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                                        • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

                                          @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

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                                          @cstross @schrotthaufen

                                          It's not.

                                          It's just that some people have become so jaded they feel it's ok to show atrocities to others without warning. It's actually really good here, some other sites I won't bother listing are far worse.

                                          All you can do is block them and hope they are shown as much compassion by others as they are showing.

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