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  3. Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

    I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

    Jess👾J This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cstross In the rare instances I do choose to share extremely disturbing things, I don't even solely rely on CWs since many people - myself included - auto expand them. I'll make the URL unclickable so someone has to copy paste it if they want to see it. Surround it with backticks if your software supports markdown. Put a space in the URL. Something so only those who actually choose to see things that may haunt dreams see it.

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    • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

      @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

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      @schrotthaufen @cstross It’s just another thing on the long list of awful, obviously wrong, definitely still illegal things which some techbro asshole did once, and which large numbers of people now do routinely.

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      • Jess👾J Jess👾

        @cstross In the rare instances I do choose to share extremely disturbing things, I don't even solely rely on CWs since many people - myself included - auto expand them. I'll make the URL unclickable so someone has to copy paste it if they want to see it. Surround it with backticks if your software supports markdown. Put a space in the URL. Something so only those who actually choose to see things that may haunt dreams see it.

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        @JessTheUnstill @cstross Yes! I see that a lot in infosec, too: Potentially malicious websites are often shared with [ ] around dots, like http://example[.]com/evil/site, to prevent accidental clicks.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

          I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

          ShadedladyS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cstross indeed

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          • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

            @cstross I'm sorry, but people need to see and be horrified by it. The Vietnam war ended because in part of the images broadcast on TV. The Afghan war dragged on because it was sanitized. Instead of complaining that you had to see it, maybe urge your representatives to defund and dismantle ICE. If you aren't American, urge your leaders to take action against my government.

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            @farbel @cstross The Vietnam War was 50 years ago. There was no media saturation, it was 15 years before CNN gave us that first glimpse of round-the-clock news everywhere.

            You can't compare the two.

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            • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

              @cstross I'm sorry, but people need to see and be horrified by it. The Vietnam war ended because in part of the images broadcast on TV. The Afghan war dragged on because it was sanitized. Instead of complaining that you had to see it, maybe urge your representatives to defund and dismantle ICE. If you aren't American, urge your leaders to take action against my government.

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              @farbel @cstross

              https://chaosfem.tw/@Athena/115940721978340127

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              • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

                @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

                A.A. Delafin, radicalM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @schrotthaufen @cstross I wouldn't call it snuff? It's not made and shared for (a weird form) of entertainment.

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                • A.A. Delafin, radicalM A.A. Delafin, radical

                  @schrotthaufen @cstross I wouldn't call it snuff? It's not made and shared for (a weird form) of entertainment.

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                  @mysteriarch @schrotthaufen Intent doesn't matter: it's how it's received.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    @mysteriarch @schrotthaufen Intent doesn't matter: it's how it's received.

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                    @cstross I don't disagree with the question for a CW.
                    Context matters etc. Still don't think 'snuff' is a correct description but that's maybe nitpicking a bit.
                    @schrotthaufen

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                    • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

                      @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

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                      @schrotthaufen @cstross

                      Gulf War 1, which pretty much "made" the 24×7 rolling news channel as a profitable business.
                      Ever since then, profits have been made by sharing (and therefore recording & editing) "snuff".
                      People follow the leads they're shown. "If," as another trope goes, "you can't see it, you can't be it."

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

                        I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

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                        @cstross
                        "Most people learn to save themselves by artificially limiting the content of consciousness."
                        - Thomas Ligotti
                        #doomed

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          @farbel I'm not a fucking American, I don't get a vote in this shit, I DO NOT NEED IT IN MY EYEBALLS. Go away until you've learned to read for context.

                          It is not okay to share your snuff videos with the whole world without a content warning. You are hurting people. Period.

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                          @cstross @farbel

                          Exactly

                          "People need to see this shit"
                          Okay. I agree. *Someone* needs to see this so things cannot get swept under the carpet.

                          "EVERYONE needs to see this shit"
                          No. People who are easily traumatised by such things do not need to have them forced down their throats.

                          "People" v "EVERYONE". A very important distinction.

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

                            I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

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                            @cstross I have also enabled "Always hide media" and unchecked "Auto-play animated GIFs" for precisely that reason. I don't need to have that stuff shoved in my face - which incidentally are mainly posts that also don't have a CW, nor proper hashtags so I cannot add a filter for it.

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

                              I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

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                              @cstross

                              Bluesky is no respecter of "no autoplay". I don't even log-in.

                              (Though, I don't mind when it's Real Amanda Rae. Hubba-Hubba-Hubba. Aawwooo! 😜)

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                @Remittancegirl I think the people who don't realize they're being damaged by this saturation coverage of atrocities are the ones receiving the most long-term harm.

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                                @cstross @Remittancegirl

                                I think the people who are getting murdered in the footage, are receiving significantly more harm.

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                                • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

                                  @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

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                                  @schrotthaufen @cstross

                                  i don't watch these videos either & i agree that they should have CW... but it becomes OK to share this content when the US media & gov't is telling lies about the victim's actions

                                  for US historical context, (which no one in this thread appears to recall?) Emmett Till's mother would not allow a closed casket because she wanted the world to see the horror so it could not be forgotten-- it was the only way she could get any justice for the crime against her child

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                                  • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

                                    @cstross I seriously wonder when it became “okay” to share snuff.

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                                    @cstross @schrotthaufen

                                    It's not.

                                    It's just that some people have become so jaded they feel it's ok to show atrocities to others without warning. It's actually really good here, some other sites I won't bother listing are far worse.

                                    All you can do is block them and hope they are shown as much compassion by others as they are showing.

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                                    • HoubaH Houba

                                      @cstross @Remittancegirl

                                      I think the people who are getting murdered in the footage, are receiving significantly more harm.

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                                      @houba @Remittancegirl Oh fuck off.

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                                      • peachfrontP peachfront

                                        @schrotthaufen @cstross

                                        i don't watch these videos either & i agree that they should have CW... but it becomes OK to share this content when the US media & gov't is telling lies about the victim's actions

                                        for US historical context, (which no one in this thread appears to recall?) Emmett Till's mother would not allow a closed casket because she wanted the world to see the horror so it could not be forgotten-- it was the only way she could get any justice for the crime against her child

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                                        @peachfront @schrotthaufen There is a DIFFERENCE between sharing information that contradicts the government narrative and RAMMING IT INTO EVERYONE'S EYEBALLS WITHOUT WARNING.

                                        If you don't get that, I don't know how to get through to you: your expectations of your media environment are toxic and destructive and you have no problem with inflicting the damage on random strangers.

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          Incidentally, yesterday's event(s) are why I ALWAYS switch off video autoplay in all browsers and social media apps and refuse to use TikTok or other video media platforms.

                                          I do not need to see that kind of shit, and you should think twice before sharing it with strangers without a content warning.

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                                          Em & future cats 🇺🇦🐈🏳️‍🌈
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                                          @cstross
                                          Yes, I have seen plenty in my lifetime but even I get triggered by videos and images (heck I CANNOT listen to the 47th and his cronies without triggering violent rage in my mind 😹)
                                          It is a very good idea to give a heads up about this sort of thing. I made it a habit to do so after I realized how I reacted to this stuff. We all need to continue recording and sharing so it doesn’t “disappear” but we have to TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER TOO❣️❣️❣️🩷🩷🩷
                                          Bless y’all out there 🩷

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