Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Darkly)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo
  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Uncategorized
84 Posts 66 Posters 164 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • gunstickG gunstick

    @sundogplanets the environment agency should have their word to say. Because all these millions of datacenters are going to be disposed off... And they won't be recycled. Just burned up. In the open. No filters. No catalysators. Just burned in the atmosphere.

    emmatonkinE This user is from outside of this forum
    emmatonkinE This user is from outside of this forum
    emmatonkin
    wrote last edited by
    #68

    @gunstick @sundogplanets

    TBH as someone with direct experience of existing "AI datacenters" I feel like there should be a literal sanity check involved somewhere. At this point you might as well ask for 1 million satellites for isolating the voice of Azathoth the Nuclear Chaos: at least that would be something you might conceivably need to be in space to do.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

      Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

      https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

      Comments due March 6.

      I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

      W This user is from outside of this forum
      W This user is from outside of this forum
      Andy Wootton
      wrote last edited by
      #69

      @sundogplanets Why would Trump want sophisticated communication systems to be available to just anyone?

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

        If anyone has time and energy to set up instructions for how to submit a comment to the FCC (it's really fucking complicated, on purpose, I'm sure), I would very much appreciate it! Otherwise I'll do it in the coming days.

        katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
        katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
        katzenberger
        wrote last edited by
        #70

        @sundogplanets

        If somebody wants to venture into this, please test all steps.

        The first one involves sending an email to ecfs@fcc.gov with "get form" and your email address in the message body.

        The reply I got was trying to strangely gaslight me:

        "Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups:

        ecfs@fcc.gov
        Your message couldn't be delivered. The Domain Name System (DNS) reported that the recipient's domain does not exist."

        There seems to be a strange subdomain falstaff.fcc.gov involved. The attached error log says:

        Diagnostic information for administrators:

        Generating server: SJ0PR09MB11735.namprd09.prod.outlook.com

        ecfs@fcc.gov
        Remote server returned '550 5.4.310 DNS domain falstaff.fcc.gov does not exist [Message=InfoDomainNonexistent] [LastAttemptedServerName=falstaff.fcc.gov] [SA2PEPF00003023.namprd09.prod.outlook.com 2026-02-05T12:30:46.776Z 08DE6078A5284768]'
        A 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

          Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

          https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

          Comments due March 6.

          I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

          Bud TalbotB This user is from outside of this forum
          Bud TalbotB This user is from outside of this forum
          Bud Talbot
          wrote last edited by
          #71

          @sundogplanets wtaf??? That's crazy

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

            Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

            https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

            Comments due March 6.

            I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

            Awk & shaM This user is from outside of this forum
            Awk & shaM This user is from outside of this forum
            Awk & sha
            wrote last edited by
            #72

            @sundogplanets any advice on what comments to the FCC should cover?

            This is an awful idea, but not because it interferes with radio communications or anything like that. Does the FCC care about things like “this won’t work at all, and after it fails space will be filled with a massive quantity of trash”?

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

              Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

              https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

              Comments due March 6.

              I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

              The TurtleT This user is from outside of this forum
              The TurtleT This user is from outside of this forum
              The Turtle
              wrote last edited by
              #73

              @sundogplanets are we signatories to any treaties governing liability for shit that falls out of space from a known source? In the past, space crap was often the property of an actual country. Having falling space crap owned overwhelmingly by a single private company seems to throw the liability balance way off and I am not sure if there are space treaties that cover one fishfaced South African dumping junk all over the world from low orbit for years.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • teresa_athomeT teresa_athome

                @sundogplanets There's a walkthrough here: https://e-ratecentral.com/Resources/Educational-Information/Guide-to-Reading-and-Filing-FCC-Comments

                SunnJax 🥾🏳️‍🌈 :Fire_Pride:S This user is from outside of this forum
                SunnJax 🥾🏳️‍🌈 :Fire_Pride:S This user is from outside of this forum
                SunnJax 🥾🏳️‍🌈 :Fire_Pride:
                wrote last edited by
                #74

                @teresa_athome I tried this, but it only seems to work for documents in the ECFS database. This SpaceX filing is in the ICFS database, which requires registration and login to an FCC portal (which I’m not sure I feel comfortable doing). Ugh, this is so convoluted… 😑

                Link to filing in ICFS database:
                https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016

                teresa_athomeT 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                  Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                  https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                  Comments due March 6.

                  I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                  Jean-Francois MezeiJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jean-Francois MezeiJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jean-Francois Mezei
                  wrote last edited by
                  #75

                  @sundogplanets SpaceX is playig the "AI" buzzwork to get a rubber stamped approval for unlimited number of satellites which the government would look very bad if it rejetected since the Trump regime wants to play the AI casino game very much.

                  Once they have the approvals, they can start a garbage disposal service in texas where they send the gargage into those pre-approved orbits. (or any other stupid use of those satellite positions). And getting those approved would also mean others can't reserve thsoe orbits anymore because SapceX will have monopoly on them.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                    Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                    Comments due March 6.

                    I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                    ulveon.net (on derg.social)U This user is from outside of this forum
                    ulveon.net (on derg.social)U This user is from outside of this forum
                    ulveon.net (on derg.social)
                    wrote last edited by
                    #76

                    @sundogplanets@mastodon.social don't worry. This is not happening. Musk just wants money and attention. He can literally just tell lies and money will flow in.

                    Musk won't launch one million satellites.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                      Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                      https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                      Comments due March 6.

                      I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                      John BrownJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      John BrownJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      John Brown
                      wrote last edited by
                      #77

                      @sundogplanets "unlimited number of satellites"

                      Soon our weather forecast will be predicting how many of those satellites will be falling down tonight.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • SunnJax 🥾🏳️‍🌈 :Fire_Pride:S SunnJax 🥾🏳️‍🌈 :Fire_Pride:

                        @teresa_athome I tried this, but it only seems to work for documents in the ECFS database. This SpaceX filing is in the ICFS database, which requires registration and login to an FCC portal (which I’m not sure I feel comfortable doing). Ugh, this is so convoluted… 😑

                        Link to filing in ICFS database:
                        https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016

                        teresa_athomeT This user is from outside of this forum
                        teresa_athomeT This user is from outside of this forum
                        teresa_athome
                        wrote last edited by
                        #78

                        @SunnJax What a pain. The regular process is pretty easy. I haven’t run across this one before. (I have been lucky.) Something else to bring to the attention of my electeds. Thanks for the heads up.

                        There’s supposedly a way to comment via email if you request the form for instructions. I’ll update after I hear back.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • katzenbergerK katzenberger

                          @sundogplanets

                          If somebody wants to venture into this, please test all steps.

                          The first one involves sending an email to ecfs@fcc.gov with "get form" and your email address in the message body.

                          The reply I got was trying to strangely gaslight me:

                          "Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups:

                          ecfs@fcc.gov
                          Your message couldn't be delivered. The Domain Name System (DNS) reported that the recipient's domain does not exist."

                          There seems to be a strange subdomain falstaff.fcc.gov involved. The attached error log says:

                          Diagnostic information for administrators:

                          Generating server: SJ0PR09MB11735.namprd09.prod.outlook.com

                          ecfs@fcc.gov
                          Remote server returned '550 5.4.310 DNS domain falstaff.fcc.gov does not exist [Message=InfoDomainNonexistent] [LastAttemptedServerName=falstaff.fcc.gov] [SA2PEPF00003023.namprd09.prod.outlook.com 2026-02-05T12:30:46.776Z 08DE6078A5284768]'
                          A This user is from outside of this forum
                          A This user is from outside of this forum
                          Alex Strasheim
                          wrote last edited by
                          #79

                          @katzenberger @sundogplanets

                          This is boring stuff, but when your server tries to deliver mail, the first thing it does is look for the MX records for the recipient's domain.

                          It looks like they're using Microsoft to run their email system.

                          My first guess is that they're changing their mail servers, and somehow your message got stuck during the transition.

                          1/2

                          A 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • A Alex Strasheim

                            @katzenberger @sundogplanets

                            This is boring stuff, but when your server tries to deliver mail, the first thing it does is look for the MX records for the recipient's domain.

                            It looks like they're using Microsoft to run their email system.

                            My first guess is that they're changing their mail servers, and somehow your message got stuck during the transition.

                            1/2

                            A This user is from outside of this forum
                            A This user is from outside of this forum
                            Alex Strasheim
                            wrote last edited by
                            #80

                            @katzenberger @sundogplanets

                            Then it looks up the numerical address of the mail server. That's working as well. I think that if you try again, it will work.

                            The caveat is that when you query a DNS server, the answer gets cached for a while. So you might have to wait for your server's cached copies of the data to expire. But the data that's live now is good.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • Eric LawtonE Eric Lawton

                              @sundogplanets

                              I appreciate any Americans that submit a complaint, but who exactly gave an American regulatory body authority over the whole of low Earth orbit and beyond?

                              Colonial theft.

                              @PhoenixSerenity

                              Richard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP    🇨🇦🌹🚴‍♂️📷 🗺️T This user is from outside of this forum
                              Richard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP    🇨🇦🌹🚴‍♂️📷 🗺️T This user is from outside of this forum
                              Richard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP 🇨🇦🌹🚴‍♂️📷 🗺️
                              wrote last edited by
                              #81

                              @EricLawton @sundogplanets @PhoenixSerenity

                              or is it because they have authority over SpaceX as an American company - and the US already believes it can tell American companies what the can do in other countries.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              1
                              0
                              • JamesB192J JamesB192

                                @sundogplanets let me marh this badly...

                                At a launch a second they could have that sucker up in months. At a launch every hour it'd take more than a century. At a launch a day millenia. Assuming of course one satellite per launch. That's just the getting to orbit bit. Fabbing the satellites might well take longer. After of course the lead time to ensure hallucinating chatbots are not on the worse granola.

                                mkjM This user is from outside of this forum
                                mkjM This user is from outside of this forum
                                mkj
                                wrote last edited by
                                #82

                                @jamesb192 Yeah, I ran some very rough numbers earlier and I think with 30 satellites per launch and one launch per day it would take almost a century, which is in line with your figures.

                                Of course that was under an assumption that no failures or other reasons for replacement on-orbit would be needed for the period. Which is… unrealistic.

                                Problem is, I suppose, that in the current climate, we can't just assume "it's madness and makes no sense, and therefore won't happen".

                                @sundogplanets

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                1
                                0
                                • :copyleft: Kiri :tux:K :copyleft: Kiri :tux:

                                  @sundogplanets How would a data center event work in outer space? Heat would build up. Unless I'm missing something and the idea is to have something super worse than regular DCs down here?

                                  mkjM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  mkjM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  mkj
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #83

                                  @kiri https://www.physicsmatt.com/blog/2025/12/11/the-dumbest-thing-ive-seen-this-week

                                  And as an interested non-expert, I personally get the feeling that Matt is being more generous than the facts *should* allow, but at least he's showing his math and coming up with a conclusion of "dumb" and "stupid idea".

                                  @sundogplanets

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  1
                                  0
                                  • bitB bit

                                    @mina @sundogplanets

                                    I read an article about this, and there was a discussion section, and someone there was making this very argument that space is cold so cooling won't be required, which I thought at the time made total sense. But then someone else brought up the fact the ISS actually has trouble cooling itself, because while yes space is cold, there is so little matter around, it remains very difficult to dissipate heat. So now I'm not so sure.

                                    mkjM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    mkjM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    mkj
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #84

                                    @bit A thermos bottle works by having a near-vacuum between whatever you want to keep warm or cold and the surrounding air. This works well because vacuum is a very good insulator.

                                    Space provides a better vacuum than anything we can easily create on Earth.

                                    Getting rid of heat in space is friggin' *hard*.

                                    As for "space is cold", temperature is a property of matter, and space is notably lacking in matter, so it's arguable whether space even *has* a temperature per se.

                                    @mina @sundogplanets

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    0
                                    Reply
                                    • Reply as topic
                                    Log in to reply
                                    • Oldest to Newest
                                    • Newest to Oldest
                                    • Most Votes


                                    • Login

                                    • Don't have an account? Register

                                    • Login or register to search.
                                    Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                    • First post
                                      Last post
                                    0
                                    • Categories
                                    • Recent
                                    • Tags
                                    • Popular
                                    • World
                                    • Users
                                    • Groups