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  3. Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

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  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

    Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

    Comments due March 6.

    I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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    klausfiend
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    @sundogplanets Any chance the guidelines for commenting when the FCC was mulling axing/reinstating Net Neutrality are still valid at this point?

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    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

      Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

      https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

      Comments due March 6.

      I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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      downbeatdan
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      #47

      @sundogplanets Thanks for the great talk tonight in Hamilton Dr Sam. Scary but enlightening... time to spread this widely.

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      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

        Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

        https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

        Comments due March 6.

        I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

        Jean-Baptiste MailletJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jean-Baptiste MailletJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jean-Baptiste Maillet
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        #48

        @sundogplanets plus space is not only a US thing (until some guy decide he wants a property title on it for some US thing). There is a higher authority for this.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_law

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        • James ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ’œS This user is from outside of this forum
          James ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ’œS This user is from outside of this forum
          James ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ’œ
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          @lexinova

          Whilst SpaceX and OneWeb are "excited" abput satelite in 5G - its not actually deployed anywhere at all, yet. Just promises since 2020.

          4G satelite systems are backhaul, and cover about 0.5% of deployed systems. The kind of places where bad cloud cover means you don't have satelite, either. Cat3 remote type places.

          Musk will probably notice if we lost 4G sat, and make some pissy tweets. Most people won't even notice.

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          • Nonya Bidniss :CIAverified: ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธN Nonya Bidniss :CIAverified: ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ

            @sundogplanets Maybe that's what it's going to take to teach the world and especially the U.S. that the billionaires should have been loaded onto a rocket and shot right into the fucking sun

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            @Nonya_Bidniss better idea than Mars. More sustainable. ๐Ÿ˜ @sundogplanets

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            • Eric LawtonE Eric Lawton

              @sundogplanets

              I appreciate any Americans that submit a complaint, but who exactly gave an American regulatory body authority over the whole of low Earth orbit and beyond?

              Colonial theft.

              @PhoenixSerenity

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              @EricLawton ๐Ÿ’ฏ @sundogplanets @PhoenixSerenity

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              • bitB bit

                @sundogplanets

                Why would they even want AI datacenters in space? We haven't solved how to cool them without massive amounts of water down here on earth, how are they going to cool them up there? Some months back I read of someone else wanting to create the same datacenters in international waters. Is this just a new way for them to try to avoid legal liability? If that's the case, I wonder what kind of content they will generate up there.

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                @bit

                I believe, they have the idea that space is really cold, and their machines will need no cooling there.

                @sundogplanets

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                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                  Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                  https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                  Comments due March 6.

                  I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                  Andrew RichensA This user is from outside of this forum
                  Andrew RichensA This user is from outside of this forum
                  Andrew Richens
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                  #53

                  @sundogplanets Many thanks for sharing the link - I wasn't aware of his at all. Absolutely disgusting! I shall be submitting some 'developmental feedback' to the FCC!

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                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                    Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                    Comments due March 6.

                    I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                    tizilogicT This user is from outside of this forum
                    tizilogicT This user is from outside of this forum
                    tizilogic
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                    @sundogplanets ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿคฆ

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                    • MinaM Mina

                      @bit

                      I believe, they have the idea that space is really cold, and their machines will need no cooling there.

                      @sundogplanets

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                      bit
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                      @mina @sundogplanets

                      I read an article about this, and there was a discussion section, and someone there was making this very argument that space is cold so cooling won't be required, which I thought at the time made total sense. But then someone else brought up the fact the ISS actually has trouble cooling itself, because while yes space is cold, there is so little matter around, it remains very difficult to dissipate heat. So now I'm not so sure.

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                      • Eric LawtonE Eric Lawton

                        @sundogplanets

                        I appreciate any Americans that submit a complaint, but who exactly gave an American regulatory body authority over the whole of low Earth orbit and beyond?

                        Colonial theft.

                        @PhoenixSerenity

                        SibylleS This user is from outside of this forum
                        SibylleS This user is from outside of this forum
                        Sibylle
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                        #56

                        @sundogplanets @PhoenixSerenity @EricLawton I think we - non US people - have to turn to our governments to tell them to stop this insanity.

                        Not that I have much confidence in the swiss gov, tough...

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                        • bitB bit

                          @mina @sundogplanets

                          I read an article about this, and there was a discussion section, and someone there was making this very argument that space is cold so cooling won't be required, which I thought at the time made total sense. But then someone else brought up the fact the ISS actually has trouble cooling itself, because while yes space is cold, there is so little matter around, it remains very difficult to dissipate heat. So now I'm not so sure.

                          MinaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @bit

                          That's the point.

                          The only way to lose heat in space is through radiation.

                          I guess, tech bros learn their physics from chatboxes.

                          I also wonder, how they plan to protect their data centres from cosmic radiation.

                          @sundogplanets

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                          • MinaM Mina

                            @bit

                            That's the point.

                            The only way to lose heat in space is through radiation.

                            I guess, tech bros learn their physics from chatboxes.

                            I also wonder, how they plan to protect their data centres from cosmic radiation.

                            @sundogplanets

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                            M Berberich
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                            @mina @bit @sundogplanets

                            They might not have learned anything and know nothing of physics.

                            They might have asked ChatGPT.

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                            • MinaM Mina

                              @bit

                              That's the point.

                              The only way to lose heat in space is through radiation.

                              I guess, tech bros learn their physics from chatboxes.

                              I also wonder, how they plan to protect their data centres from cosmic radiation.

                              @sundogplanets

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                              Reinald Kirchner
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                              @bit @sundogplanets @mina I heard the 486 CPU generations were way more robust against radiation 'cause of there larger structures. Maybe they get popular again. ๐Ÿซฃ

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                              • bitB bit

                                @mina @sundogplanets

                                I read an article about this, and there was a discussion section, and someone there was making this very argument that space is cold so cooling won't be required, which I thought at the time made total sense. But then someone else brought up the fact the ISS actually has trouble cooling itself, because while yes space is cold, there is so little matter around, it remains very difficult to dissipate heat. So now I'm not so sure.

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                                M Berberich
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                                @bit @mina @sundogplanets

                                Space is not cold.
                                Temperature is a property of matter. In space there is noยน matter, so no temperature.

                                __________
                                ยน There is matter in space, but as it is a ultra-high vacuum, the density is so low that you can completely ignore it in this context.

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                                  Conny Nasch
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                                  @Doomed_Daniel @mmcknett @kiri @sundogplanets The voice of reason was noted in the comments to this very clarifying article. I am an artist/painter and not engineer, (my father and partner are), I am fascinated by engineering and science though. Thank you for this super perspective on the subject I watched last night on 3Sat "Nano", which chilled me to the bone.

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                                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                    Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                    Comments due March 6.

                                    I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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                                    @sundogplanets This is more about the upcoming ipo than reality. It's to make dumb investors wet themselves with excitement. At that level, it'll probably work...
                                    But still, needs a big NO from the FCC, who should not be the arbiter anyway, it's an international issue.
                                    I wonder what the Chinese think about it?!!

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                                      @sundogplanets This is more about the upcoming ipo than reality. It's to make dumb investors wet themselves with excitement. At that level, it'll probably work...
                                      But still, needs a big NO from the FCC, who should not be the arbiter anyway, it's an international issue.
                                      I wonder what the Chinese think about it?!!

                                      Little Art HistoriesA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Little Art Histories
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                                      @pa27 @sundogplanets
                                      Definitely. Investors already start asking when they are going to see revenue from the investments they made so our beloved tech-bros need a new flashy thing to distract from the fact that they are playing the Theranos-game all over again, raking in nonsensical amounts of money with the added bonus of destructing societies and the world.

                                      But maybe everything is just a ploy to get the Chinese and Russians to die from laughter about the stupidity of the west?

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                                      • MinaM Mina

                                        @bit

                                        That's the point.

                                        The only way to lose heat in space is through radiation.

                                        I guess, tech bros learn their physics from chatboxes.

                                        I also wonder, how they plan to protect their data centres from cosmic radiation.

                                        @sundogplanets

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                                        @mina @bit @sundogplanets

                                        Deutschlandfunk had an interview with Prof. Dr.-Ing. Felix Huber (director of GSOC - German Space Operations Center) about this topic yesterday - and they discussed all the points. To me he sounded increasingly annoyed ;D

                                        - mass
                                        - size
                                        - space debris
                                        - heat
                                        - radiation
                                        - tech ageing
                                        - maintenance
                                        - replacement
                                        - de-orbiting
                                        - atmospheric pollution
                                        - communication
                                        - CO2 emissions

                                        Conclusion: ๐Ÿšฎ

                                        ๐ŸŽง German, 5 min:
                                        https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/ki-aus-dem-all-wie-realistisch-sind-weltraumgestuetzte-rechenzentren-100.html

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                                        • Sepia FanS Sepia Fan

                                          @mina @bit @sundogplanets

                                          Deutschlandfunk had an interview with Prof. Dr.-Ing. Felix Huber (director of GSOC - German Space Operations Center) about this topic yesterday - and they discussed all the points. To me he sounded increasingly annoyed ;D

                                          - mass
                                          - size
                                          - space debris
                                          - heat
                                          - radiation
                                          - tech ageing
                                          - maintenance
                                          - replacement
                                          - de-orbiting
                                          - atmospheric pollution
                                          - communication
                                          - CO2 emissions

                                          Conclusion: ๐Ÿšฎ

                                          ๐ŸŽง German, 5 min:
                                          https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/ki-aus-dem-all-wie-realistisch-sind-weltraumgestuetzte-rechenzentren-100.html

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                                          @stekopf

                                          Gleich mal hรถren.

                                          @bit @sundogplanets

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