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Suggestions for mini PC #homelab server appreciated (~1000€).

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  • António DominguesK This user is from outside of this forum
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    @visone Good points. The server will be running 24/7 but the heavy duty tasks will be in spikes, so overheating is not a concern.

    As for the building by parts: I don't enough knowledge and, above all, time to select the parts. It's been more than 20 years since I've assembled a computer - and I had help getting the parts from IT friends 🙂

    Assuming it doesn't go too over budget, I would rather trade money for convenience.

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      @visone meaning, I don't mind getting my hands dirty and upgrading it myself with RAM/HDD but not build the whole thing. I know my limitations.

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        @visone Thank you! I will add it to my list 🙂

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        • António DominguesK António Domingues

          Suggestions for mini PC #homelab server appreciated (~1000€). I want it for data analysis tasks (#bioinformatics) which require quite a bit of RAM, but not necessarily a GPU. I will run linux #ubuntu on it and it's not up for discussion.

          Wants:

          - loads of RAM. 32GB is a start but needs to be upgradeable to at least 64GB, and ideally 128GB
          - silent on idle because it will be next to my desk (living room)
          - energy efficient (I heard that AMZ ryzen is generally better than intel)
          - LAN port

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          @keyboardpipette my lab runs on cheap used small machines. I second the recommendation for small format models from workstation manufacturers, like lenovo m75q or p3. They usually have tons of aftermarket replacement parts, manuals and some are designed for long, sustained workloads.

          Cheap used workstation/desktop replacement laptops could be a good fit too. DDR4/DDR3 ram models can support upto 128gb and are VERY cheap computes (relatively speaking).

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          • António DominguesK António Domingues

            Suggestions for mini PC #homelab server appreciated (~1000€). I want it for data analysis tasks (#bioinformatics) which require quite a bit of RAM, but not necessarily a GPU. I will run linux #ubuntu on it and it's not up for discussion.

            Wants:

            - loads of RAM. 32GB is a start but needs to be upgradeable to at least 64GB, and ideally 128GB
            - silent on idle because it will be next to my desk (living room)
            - energy efficient (I heard that AMZ ryzen is generally better than intel)
            - LAN port

            SMTB This user is from outside of this forum
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            @keyboardpipette for what it is worth i rent a server on hetzner for similar purposes since my internet connection is trash. It is about 50 USD per month, 62 GB ram, 20 threads with avx2 (sadly no avx512). But i guess for long term usage, buying one should be better

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              @keyboardpipette my lab runs on cheap used small machines. I second the recommendation for small format models from workstation manufacturers, like lenovo m75q or p3. They usually have tons of aftermarket replacement parts, manuals and some are designed for long, sustained workloads.

              Cheap used workstation/desktop replacement laptops could be a good fit too. DDR4/DDR3 ram models can support upto 128gb and are VERY cheap computes (relatively speaking).

              António DominguesK This user is from outside of this forum
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              @naturepoker good tip, thanks. I did a quick search for DDR4 X DDR5 RAM prices and at the moment, in this crazy market, the prices are not so different. Mind you that was a cursory search.

              But, I'll continue researching.

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                @keyboardpipette for what it is worth i rent a server on hetzner for similar purposes since my internet connection is trash. It is about 50 USD per month, 62 GB ram, 20 threads with avx2 (sadly no avx512). But i guess for long term usage, buying one should be better

                António DominguesK This user is from outside of this forum
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                @bioinfhotep I did look at cloud solutions, including Hetzner, but as you said, it's not a long term solution. The thing is that I only have a couple of hours, or less, per day for my pet projects, so I want something that is available and fuss free from the get go. Cloud is nice but expensive for such convenience, or cumbersome if one wants to have it on the cheap - I would have to pay for storage or transfer the data on the go, Etc.

                But the price point is getting there.

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                • António DominguesK António Domingues

                  @naturepoker good tip, thanks. I did a quick search for DDR4 X DDR5 RAM prices and at the moment, in this crazy market, the prices are not so different. Mind you that was a cursory search.

                  But, I'll continue researching.

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                  @keyboardpipette oh price differential is for used machines already kitted out with amount of ram you're looking for. If you're buying ddr4 sticks directly there won't be too much difference.

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                  • António DominguesK António Domingues

                    @bioinfhotep I did look at cloud solutions, including Hetzner, but as you said, it's not a long term solution. The thing is that I only have a couple of hours, or less, per day for my pet projects, so I want something that is available and fuss free from the get go. Cloud is nice but expensive for such convenience, or cumbersome if one wants to have it on the cheap - I would have to pay for storage or transfer the data on the go, Etc.

                    But the price point is getting there.

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                    @keyboardpipette for convenience i think it is quite convenient on hetzner since i use vs-code remote-ssh anyway all the time and mount remote folders when needed using sshfs. It is a bit expensive (there is a one time setup fee) even though transfer bandwidth is quite large but ssd pricing is an issue

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                    • António DominguesK António Domingues

                      Suggestions for mini PC #homelab server appreciated (~1000€). I want it for data analysis tasks (#bioinformatics) which require quite a bit of RAM, but not necessarily a GPU. I will run linux #ubuntu on it and it's not up for discussion.

                      Wants:

                      - loads of RAM. 32GB is a start but needs to be upgradeable to at least 64GB, and ideally 128GB
                      - silent on idle because it will be next to my desk (living room)
                      - energy efficient (I heard that AMZ ryzen is generally better than intel)
                      - LAN port

                      Rupert OverallR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @keyboardpipette Just a note: if you want to run this as a headless server, then it doesn't necessarily need to be on your desk. That might open up some less-quiet options.
                      Also, if it is only in use for short periods and can be shut down the rest of the time, then low-power mode is also no longer important and even more options open up.

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