People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions.
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People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/
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I'll start with 3 off the top of my head:
- Our health care information systems in Alberta (and probably other provinces) are dependant upon Oracle and Epic Systems
- Every single level of government and most of our private sector are dependant upon Microsoft Windows and Office
- Most levels of government use AWS, which already leaves our data vulnerable to the Cloud Act -
@bert_hubert good idea and not just digital services. My guess is also Pharma, drugs, medical supplies, like stents and such!
@energisch_ @bert_hubert yes, for instance there are international, US based pharma groups delivering vital HIV medication (as in treatment for HIV positive as well as preventative drugs for HIV negative people) to the world.
If these would be to retreat from European markets it could cripple TasP and prevention efforts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbbVie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Myers_Squibb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_%26_Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilead_Sciences
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merck_%26_Co.
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@energisch_ @bert_hubert yes, for instance there are international, US based pharma groups delivering vital HIV medication (as in treatment for HIV positive as well as preventative drugs for HIV negative people) to the world.
If these would be to retreat from European markets it could cripple TasP and prevention efforts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbbVie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Myers_Squibb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_%26_Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilead_Sciences
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merck_%26_Co.
@ChrisUplus exactly - and that's just one example. EU should buy some surplus NOW @EUCommission
#drugs #medicine #instruments #USproducts
@bert_hubert -
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People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/
@bert_hubert
WRT Canada's reliance on American companies (AWS, Google, Cloudflare, etc) for online government services
️It's depressing. Not going to bother with an analysis;
is screwedI recommend we find a way to collaborate with EU efforts to build online infrastructure independent of American control.
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@bert_hubert
Hoe is het ondertussen met de belastingdienst?@mfierst En de SVB? @bert_hubert
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@ChrisUplus exactly - and that's just one example. EU should buy some surplus NOW @EUCommission
#drugs #medicine #instruments #USproducts
@bert_hubert@energisch_ I've not the slightest idea whether it's even possible to buy enough in advance to provide currently treated and any surplus which may come on top after diagnosis. Especially in light of rising infection rates globally due to war and other socioeconomic factors. What's definitely at risk are treatment options. One does not tolerate each available regimen and some got resistant virus in their DNA, so already have limited options. Need production long term.
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@energisch_ I've not the slightest idea whether it's even possible to buy enough in advance to provide currently treated and any surplus which may come on top after diagnosis. Especially in light of rising infection rates globally due to war and other socioeconomic factors. What's definitely at risk are treatment options. One does not tolerate each available regimen and some got resistant virus in their DNA, so already have limited options. Need production long term.
@ChrisUplus so the best would be to buy licences and produce it here in EU @EUCommission @bert_hubert
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People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/
@bert_hubert It's complicated. Those are all non-govt assets, meaning the US govt would have to somehow persuade those companies to comply, which might be difficult. That said, it's just prudent for countries to divest from US dependence if they can, to the extent they can. Nearly all these services are mostly just server farms, which anyone of means can build. In the short term, it might require temporarily repurposing existing domestic resources while new ones are built.
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People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/
@bert_hubert Risk-adverse Europeans are already cutting ties with US tech. It has the added advantage of punishing the worst tech-bros for financially supporting Trump's fascists who are feeding on the souls of Republicans. [Edited when I realised the Republican Party never had a soul.]
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People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/
Who what the fuck, would be Able to Work if Microsoft or Google cut service. They are almost everywhere. It is extremely rare to find someone not dependent on them.
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@mfierst En de SVB? @bert_hubert
@OpWereld @bert_hubert
De SVB wordt genoemd. Zie laatste bullit onder 'Overheid' -
@OpWereld @bert_hubert
De SVB wordt genoemd. Zie laatste bullit onder 'Overheid' -
@ChrisUplus so the best would be to buy licences and produce it here in EU @EUCommission @bert_hubert
@energisch_ @ChrisUplus @EUCommission @bert_hubert or do what the #USA did in at least one case and "P.R." #Cina routinely does and threaten to void any #patents if there won't be any #TechnologyTransfers and irrevocable licensing for domestic demand.
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@bert_hubert Risk-adverse Europeans are already cutting ties with US tech. It has the added advantage of punishing the worst tech-bros for financially supporting Trump's fascists who are feeding on the souls of Republicans. [Edited when I realised the Republican Party never had a soul.]
@woo @bert_hubert Nice bonus there. Speaking as an American, we need our "allies" to stop putting up with our shit and start cutting off ties. Working on the internal pressure, maybe if we're lucky also losing most of our exports would be a big enough deal to slow(?) the fascist takeover.
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@bert_hubert
WRT Canada's reliance on American companies (AWS, Google, Cloudflare, etc) for online government services️It's depressing. Not going to bother with an analysis;
is screwedI recommend we find a way to collaborate with EU efforts to build online infrastructure independent of American control.
@puzzled @bert_hubert We need to talk anyway...
