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  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

    Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

    I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

    This is as bad as sexual harassment.

    Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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    #13

    FYI this was in response to me being exhausted, as the amount of men creepily proposing to me continues to grow.

    I was tired of being catcalled, I *talked about it*, and was told I was encouraging it.

    This is the kind of behavior that drives women off of Fedi and toward closed platforms like Instagram where blocking is (seemingly) easier (and where there's more women).

    https://linuxmom.net/@vkc/116007560411131080

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    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

      Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

      I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

      This is as bad as sexual harassment.

      Eyal Kalderon 🌌E This user is from outside of this forum
      Eyal Kalderon 🌌E This user is from outside of this forum
      Eyal Kalderon 🌌
      wrote last edited by
      #14

      @vkc I'm so sorry this happened to you! Be true to yourself, call out bad behavior when you see it, and surround yourself with people who treat you like a human being (and encourage you to do the same). ❀️

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      • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

        Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

        I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

        This is as bad as sexual harassment.

        UberZeitgeistU This user is from outside of this forum
        UberZeitgeistU This user is from outside of this forum
        UberZeitgeist
        wrote last edited by
        #15

        @vkc - Personally, I find the Fedi a quiet, reflective, non-noise environment with a ton of wallflower folks just posting their thoughts often to an empty room/no replies. Contrasted with the hot mess that is Xwitter - moreso now, as X changed its posting rules and now folks are just posting porn and way, way worse base misogynistic junk. I'm sorry if the baddies have found you. I've only found nice folks here in this quiet corner of the 'net.

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        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

          @tragivictoria @kevingamin @chanda but it also happens A LOT here on Fedi. It's important to call that out because every day I hear replyfolk after replyfolk tell me that Fedi is immune from this sort of behavior. It's not and we have to say that.

          Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:T This user is from outside of this forum
          Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:T This user is from outside of this forum
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          #16

          @vkc@linuxmom.net @kevingamin@twit.social @chanda@blacktwitter.io oh, i didnt meant to deny that nor disagree, just wanted to say that its not fediverse-specific. Aside from that 100% agreed

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          • Eyal Kalderon 🌌E Eyal Kalderon 🌌

            @vkc I'm so sorry this happened to you! Be true to yourself, call out bad behavior when you see it, and surround yourself with people who treat you like a human being (and encourage you to do the same). ❀️

            Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ebkalderon "happened" is an understatement, it's something I see nearly every time I read my mentions.

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            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

              @ebkalderon "happened" is an understatement, it's something I see nearly every time I read my mentions.

              Eyal Kalderon 🌌E This user is from outside of this forum
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              Eyal Kalderon 🌌
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              @vkc That's terrible... I'm genuinely sorry.

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              • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                FYI this was in response to me being exhausted, as the amount of men creepily proposing to me continues to grow.

                I was tired of being catcalled, I *talked about it*, and was told I was encouraging it.

                This is the kind of behavior that drives women off of Fedi and toward closed platforms like Instagram where blocking is (seemingly) easier (and where there's more women).

                https://linuxmom.net/@vkc/116007560411131080

                daniel:// stenberg://B This user is from outside of this forum
                daniel:// stenberg://B This user is from outside of this forum
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                @vkc hold out, keep up and remember that there are many awesome people out there as well, even if sometimes the bad ones take all the oxygen! and of course: we support you whatever decision you do to keep sane and at peace

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                • Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:T Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:

                  @vkc@linuxmom.net @kevingamin@twit.social @chanda@blacktwitter.io oh, i didnt meant to deny that nor disagree, just wanted to say that its not fediverse-specific. Aside from that 100% agreed

                  Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #20

                  @tragivictoria it's a little like someone saying "cancer is hard" and coming into their replies saying "all diseases are hard". I am specifically addressing Fedi, because misogyny happens here. A lot. Every day. And we need to *say that.*

                  @kevingamin @chanda

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                  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                    FYI this was in response to me being exhausted, as the amount of men creepily proposing to me continues to grow.

                    I was tired of being catcalled, I *talked about it*, and was told I was encouraging it.

                    This is the kind of behavior that drives women off of Fedi and toward closed platforms like Instagram where blocking is (seemingly) easier (and where there's more women).

                    https://linuxmom.net/@vkc/116007560411131080

                    Alexandre OlivaL This user is from outside of this forum
                    Alexandre OlivaL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    eeek 😞 I guess with your success and your visibility, you get some of the worst of humankind 😞 so sorry. more strength to you!
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                    • UberZeitgeistU UberZeitgeist

                      @vkc - Personally, I find the Fedi a quiet, reflective, non-noise environment with a ton of wallflower folks just posting their thoughts often to an empty room/no replies. Contrasted with the hot mess that is Xwitter - moreso now, as X changed its posting rules and now folks are just posting porn and way, way worse base misogynistic junk. I'm sorry if the baddies have found you. I've only found nice folks here in this quiet corner of the 'net.

                      bo0tzzM This user is from outside of this forum
                      bo0tzzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @UberZeitgeist "it's fine for me" isn't helpful in the slightest

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                      • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                        Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

                        I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

                        This is as bad as sexual harassment.

                        K This user is from outside of this forum
                        K This user is from outside of this forum
                        kgndiue
                        wrote last edited by
                        #23

                        @vkc You are right. I can totally understand if you chose to leave fedi/social media etc. Im a cynic and for me this is behaviour that people will show when accountability and consequence is lacking. So, on the internet and the fediverse there is no solution, except maybe small, vetted communities where you can only become member when someone vouches for newbies.

                        Its a bleeding wound and it needs to be recognised and tackled. Otherwhise people will be mobbed of fedi like everywhere else.

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                        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                          Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

                          I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

                          This is as bad as sexual harassment.

                          jackJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          jackJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #24

                          @vkc please don't! it shouldn't be up to you to block the creeps - their instance mods should be doing that for us...

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                          • jackJ jack

                            @vkc please don't! it shouldn't be up to you to block the creeps - their instance mods should be doing that for us...

                            Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #25

                            @jackeric yes, but men also need to stand up to other men when this happens. They need to change culture. Online it's easy- get in the way when you see it.

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                            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                              FYI this was in response to me being exhausted, as the amount of men creepily proposing to me continues to grow.

                              I was tired of being catcalled, I *talked about it*, and was told I was encouraging it.

                              This is the kind of behavior that drives women off of Fedi and toward closed platforms like Instagram where blocking is (seemingly) easier (and where there's more women).

                              https://linuxmom.net/@vkc/116007560411131080

                              DennyC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @vkc you are in the right. I don't care how a woman dresses, it's the man's fault if he acts inappropriately. Please ignore these stupid evil people that blame the victim. Not all men Are walking scum. But too many of us are.

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                              • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                @jackeric yes, but men also need to stand up to other men when this happens. They need to change culture. Online it's easy- get in the way when you see it.

                                jackJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote last edited by
                                #27

                                @vkc you mean against the guys who say "marry me", or the guys who offer unsolicited advice... or all of the above?

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                                • jackJ jack

                                  @vkc you mean against the guys who say "marry me", or the guys who offer unsolicited advice... or all of the above?

                                  Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #28

                                  @jackeric yes

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                                  • K kgndiue

                                    @vkc You are right. I can totally understand if you chose to leave fedi/social media etc. Im a cynic and for me this is behaviour that people will show when accountability and consequence is lacking. So, on the internet and the fediverse there is no solution, except maybe small, vetted communities where you can only become member when someone vouches for newbies.

                                    Its a bleeding wound and it needs to be recognised and tackled. Otherwhise people will be mobbed of fedi like everywhere else.

                                    K This user is from outside of this forum
                                    K This user is from outside of this forum
                                    kgndiue
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #29

                                    @vkc So if you chose to leave, disable comments on all videos and thats that, all power to you. Why engage with this bs when this is the reaction you get?

                                    My way was to follow the interesting people on mastodon and thats it. Since i live in a country where a web presence requires you to provide your real adress and said country has a rising fascist tide that likes to "make visits" i will not engage further nor keep a constant pseudonym.

                                    Do whats best for you.

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                                    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                      Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

                                      I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

                                      This is as bad as sexual harassment.

                                      Noortje Van LeeuwenN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Noortje Van LeeuwenN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Noortje Van Leeuwen
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #30

                                      @vkc I both block and report them.

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                                      • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                        Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

                                        I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

                                        This is as bad as sexual harassment.

                                        Bit_formB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Bit_formB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Bit_form
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #31

                                        @vkc Many men love to pretend like they understand any social issue with such fucking smugness, but will still pull this shiy not even doing the simple math of understanding that they are doing it. AND THEN REFUSE TO CARE

                                        I'm so sorry. Merely being a woman on the internet is not cause to harass you or any other woman.

                                        Thank you for your work and knowledge. Thank you for doing what you love and taking the space despite this bullshit.

                                        I hate it here. (Earth)

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                                        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                          FYI this was in response to me being exhausted, as the amount of men creepily proposing to me continues to grow.

                                          I was tired of being catcalled, I *talked about it*, and was told I was encouraging it.

                                          This is the kind of behavior that drives women off of Fedi and toward closed platforms like Instagram where blocking is (seemingly) easier (and where there's more women).

                                          https://linuxmom.net/@vkc/116007560411131080

                                          DaniΓ«l Franke :panheart:A This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @vkc Can I boost this?

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