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  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

    Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

    I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

    This is as bad as sexual harassment.

    Kevin GaminK This user is from outside of this forum
    Kevin GaminK This user is from outside of this forum
    Kevin Gamin
    wrote last edited by
    #10

    @vkc The Fediverse LOVES to victim blame. I remember @chanda dealing with a lot of that when trying to handle all the sexiest and racist junk thrown their way.

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    • Kevin GaminK Kevin Gamin

      @vkc The Fediverse LOVES to victim blame. I remember @chanda dealing with a lot of that when trying to handle all the sexiest and racist junk thrown their way.

      Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:T This user is from outside of this forum
      Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:T This user is from outside of this forum
      Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:
      wrote last edited by
      #11

      @kevingamin@twit.social @vkc@linuxmom.net @chanda@blacktwitter.io its not fediverse but people in general. Humans are shit

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      • Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:T Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:

        @kevingamin@twit.social @vkc@linuxmom.net @chanda@blacktwitter.io its not fediverse but people in general. Humans are shit

        Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
        Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        @tragivictoria @kevingamin @chanda but it also happens A LOT here on Fedi. It's important to call that out because every day I hear replyfolk after replyfolk tell me that Fedi is immune from this sort of behavior. It's not and we have to say that.

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        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

          Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

          I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

          This is as bad as sexual harassment.

          Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
          Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
          Veronica Explains
          wrote last edited by
          #13

          FYI this was in response to me being exhausted, as the amount of men creepily proposing to me continues to grow.

          I was tired of being catcalled, I *talked about it*, and was told I was encouraging it.

          This is the kind of behavior that drives women off of Fedi and toward closed platforms like Instagram where blocking is (seemingly) easier (and where there's more women).

          https://linuxmom.net/@vkc/116007560411131080

          daniel:// stenberg://B Alexandre OlivaL DennyC Daniël Franke :panheart:A PedestrianError :vbus: :nblvt:P 7 Replies Last reply
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          • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

            Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

            I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

            This is as bad as sexual harassment.

            Eyal Kalderon 🌌E This user is from outside of this forum
            Eyal Kalderon 🌌E This user is from outside of this forum
            Eyal Kalderon 🌌
            wrote last edited by
            #14

            @vkc I'm so sorry this happened to you! Be true to yourself, call out bad behavior when you see it, and surround yourself with people who treat you like a human being (and encourage you to do the same). ❤️

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            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

              Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

              I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

              This is as bad as sexual harassment.

              UberZeitgeistU This user is from outside of this forum
              UberZeitgeistU This user is from outside of this forum
              UberZeitgeist
              wrote last edited by
              #15

              @vkc - Personally, I find the Fedi a quiet, reflective, non-noise environment with a ton of wallflower folks just posting their thoughts often to an empty room/no replies. Contrasted with the hot mess that is Xwitter - moreso now, as X changed its posting rules and now folks are just posting porn and way, way worse base misogynistic junk. I'm sorry if the baddies have found you. I've only found nice folks here in this quiet corner of the 'net.

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              • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                @tragivictoria @kevingamin @chanda but it also happens A LOT here on Fedi. It's important to call that out because every day I hear replyfolk after replyfolk tell me that Fedi is immune from this sort of behavior. It's not and we have to say that.

                Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:T This user is from outside of this forum
                Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:T This user is from outside of this forum
                Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:
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                #16

                @vkc@linuxmom.net @kevingamin@twit.social @chanda@blacktwitter.io oh, i didnt meant to deny that nor disagree, just wanted to say that its not fediverse-specific. Aside from that 100% agreed

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                • Eyal Kalderon 🌌E Eyal Kalderon 🌌

                  @vkc I'm so sorry this happened to you! Be true to yourself, call out bad behavior when you see it, and surround yourself with people who treat you like a human being (and encourage you to do the same). ❤️

                  Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
                  Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #17

                  @ebkalderon "happened" is an understatement, it's something I see nearly every time I read my mentions.

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                  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                    @ebkalderon "happened" is an understatement, it's something I see nearly every time I read my mentions.

                    Eyal Kalderon 🌌E This user is from outside of this forum
                    Eyal Kalderon 🌌E This user is from outside of this forum
                    Eyal Kalderon 🌌
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                    @vkc That's terrible... I'm genuinely sorry.

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                    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                      FYI this was in response to me being exhausted, as the amount of men creepily proposing to me continues to grow.

                      I was tired of being catcalled, I *talked about it*, and was told I was encouraging it.

                      This is the kind of behavior that drives women off of Fedi and toward closed platforms like Instagram where blocking is (seemingly) easier (and where there's more women).

                      https://linuxmom.net/@vkc/116007560411131080

                      daniel:// stenberg://B This user is from outside of this forum
                      daniel:// stenberg://B This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #19

                      @vkc hold out, keep up and remember that there are many awesome people out there as well, even if sometimes the bad ones take all the oxygen! and of course: we support you whatever decision you do to keep sane and at peace

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                      • Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:T Victoria :neocat_flag_trans::spinny_cat_lesbian:

                        @vkc@linuxmom.net @kevingamin@twit.social @chanda@blacktwitter.io oh, i didnt meant to deny that nor disagree, just wanted to say that its not fediverse-specific. Aside from that 100% agreed

                        Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
                        Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
                        Veronica Explains
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                        #20

                        @tragivictoria it's a little like someone saying "cancer is hard" and coming into their replies saying "all diseases are hard". I am specifically addressing Fedi, because misogyny happens here. A lot. Every day. And we need to *say that.*

                        @kevingamin @chanda

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                        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                          FYI this was in response to me being exhausted, as the amount of men creepily proposing to me continues to grow.

                          I was tired of being catcalled, I *talked about it*, and was told I was encouraging it.

                          This is the kind of behavior that drives women off of Fedi and toward closed platforms like Instagram where blocking is (seemingly) easier (and where there's more women).

                          https://linuxmom.net/@vkc/116007560411131080

                          Alexandre OlivaL This user is from outside of this forum
                          Alexandre OlivaL This user is from outside of this forum
                          Alexandre Oliva
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                          eeek 😞 I guess with your success and your visibility, you get some of the worst of humankind 😞 so sorry. more strength to you!
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                          • UberZeitgeistU UberZeitgeist

                            @vkc - Personally, I find the Fedi a quiet, reflective, non-noise environment with a ton of wallflower folks just posting their thoughts often to an empty room/no replies. Contrasted with the hot mess that is Xwitter - moreso now, as X changed its posting rules and now folks are just posting porn and way, way worse base misogynistic junk. I'm sorry if the baddies have found you. I've only found nice folks here in this quiet corner of the 'net.

                            bo0tzzM This user is from outside of this forum
                            bo0tzzM This user is from outside of this forum
                            bo0tzz
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                            @UberZeitgeist "it's fine for me" isn't helpful in the slightest

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                            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                              Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

                              I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

                              This is as bad as sexual harassment.

                              K This user is from outside of this forum
                              K This user is from outside of this forum
                              kgndiue
                              wrote last edited by
                              #23

                              @vkc You are right. I can totally understand if you chose to leave fedi/social media etc. Im a cynic and for me this is behaviour that people will show when accountability and consequence is lacking. So, on the internet and the fediverse there is no solution, except maybe small, vetted communities where you can only become member when someone vouches for newbies.

                              Its a bleeding wound and it needs to be recognised and tackled. Otherwhise people will be mobbed of fedi like everywhere else.

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                              • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                Everyone loves blaming a victim. "You are encouraging other weird/creepy people" GTFO with that.

                                I get a few of these EVERY TIME I post about sexism on this website. I'm sick of it- you all are making me want to delete this server and abandon Fedi. I'm totally serious.

                                This is as bad as sexual harassment.

                                jackJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                jackJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                jack
                                wrote last edited by
                                #24

                                @vkc please don't! it shouldn't be up to you to block the creeps - their instance mods should be doing that for us...

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                                  @vkc please don't! it shouldn't be up to you to block the creeps - their instance mods should be doing that for us...

                                  Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #25

                                  @jackeric yes, but men also need to stand up to other men when this happens. They need to change culture. Online it's easy- get in the way when you see it.

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                                  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                    FYI this was in response to me being exhausted, as the amount of men creepily proposing to me continues to grow.

                                    I was tired of being catcalled, I *talked about it*, and was told I was encouraging it.

                                    This is the kind of behavior that drives women off of Fedi and toward closed platforms like Instagram where blocking is (seemingly) easier (and where there's more women).

                                    https://linuxmom.net/@vkc/116007560411131080

                                    DennyC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    DennyC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Denny
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #26

                                    @vkc you are in the right. I don't care how a woman dresses, it's the man's fault if he acts inappropriately. Please ignore these stupid evil people that blame the victim. Not all men Are walking scum. But too many of us are.

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                                    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                      @jackeric yes, but men also need to stand up to other men when this happens. They need to change culture. Online it's easy- get in the way when you see it.

                                      jackJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      jackJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      jack
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @vkc you mean against the guys who say "marry me", or the guys who offer unsolicited advice... or all of the above?

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                                      • jackJ jack

                                        @vkc you mean against the guys who say "marry me", or the guys who offer unsolicited advice... or all of the above?

                                        Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Veronica Explains
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #28

                                        @jackeric yes

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                                        • K kgndiue

                                          @vkc You are right. I can totally understand if you chose to leave fedi/social media etc. Im a cynic and for me this is behaviour that people will show when accountability and consequence is lacking. So, on the internet and the fediverse there is no solution, except maybe small, vetted communities where you can only become member when someone vouches for newbies.

                                          Its a bleeding wound and it needs to be recognised and tackled. Otherwhise people will be mobbed of fedi like everywhere else.

                                          K This user is from outside of this forum
                                          K This user is from outside of this forum
                                          kgndiue
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #29

                                          @vkc So if you chose to leave, disable comments on all videos and thats that, all power to you. Why engage with this bs when this is the reaction you get?

                                          My way was to follow the interesting people on mastodon and thats it. Since i live in a country where a web presence requires you to provide your real adress and said country has a rising fascist tide that likes to "make visits" i will not engage further nor keep a constant pseudonym.

                                          Do whats best for you.

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