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  • PedroLealP PedroLeal

    @paul @rastilin @Greylinux @jonah don't forget that if you go to court, they don't need to be right, they just need to bury you in paperwork and legal fees until you give up or become impoverished and destroyed.

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    #32

    @PedroLeal_ @rastilin @Greylinux @jonah 🤣
    "What you in for?"
    "Trying to bypass age verification on a website advertising alcohol by using socks proxies via dynamic ssh tunnels to various VPS spotted around europe and the rest of the world. I got caught because I couldn't adequately explain it isn't a VPN. You?"

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    • Jonah AragonJ Jonah Aragon

      RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876

      Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”

      A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.

      Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.

      And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw

      #UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia

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      Stephen Boylett
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      #33

      @jonah thia idea is deranged. There is no way on a technical level to differentiate between using a TLS VPN and opening a web site via HTTPS. In fact modern ZTNA solutions offerbweb portals that are actually websites that then given onward access. This us some idiot that has no clue technically, coming up with a knee jerk reaction, that will never ever get through parliament.

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      • Jonah AragonJ Jonah Aragon

        RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876

        Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”

        A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.

        Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.

        And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw

        #UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia

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        #34

        @jonah what do you think the main objective is in that total control, is it just kind of an experiment? Another reason to fine people or jail them? In America, I think strict laws like this come down to giving banks our real estate in the end.

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        • Jonah AragonJ Jonah Aragon

          RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876

          Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”

          A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.

          Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.

          And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw

          #UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia

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          Beldarak
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          #35

          @jonah

          It will also mean you'll only see tech-y people's videos on Pornhub once nobody else will be able to access it 😛

          Not sure it's something we want :S

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          • Jonah AragonJ Jonah Aragon

            RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876

            Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”

            A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.

            Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.

            And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw

            #UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia

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            Jonah Aragon
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            #36

            I think some are still missing the point. I’m not saying they’re going to lock up every single person who uses a VPN or watches porn.

            Your government’s strategy is to make “crimes” like this as common and easy to commit as possible.

            This way, if you ever do something completely legal which they *actually* don’t like, *which can be completely unrelated to VPNs or bypassing age verification,* they can pull up your internet history and easily prosecute you.

            Organize a legitimate protest, and the government’s swift response will be to label you a child sex offender because they found you using evil VPN technology.

            This is how free speech dies, not from a law that says “free speech is dead now,” but from draconian, authoritarian laws like this that give the government “plausible” reasons to go after anyone, which can’t easily be fought against.

            This has always been the playbook to target innocents. In the USA, drug possession laws being created as a pretense for cops to raid and dismantle minority communities, for example. And now this is coming to the digital realm.

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            • DibsD Dibs

              @jonah we definitely don't have space to lock anyone up on the pretext they might have committed a crime. But I agree with the sentiment.

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              #37

              @dtwx https://mastodon.neat.computer/@jonah/115973482132687933

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              • 3dcandy3 3dcandy

                @jonah they don't lock up sex offenders and killers any more so incredibly doubtful. Mahoosive fine more like, which makes zero difference

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                Jonah Aragon
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                #38

                @3dcandy https://mastodon.neat.computer/@jonah/115973482132687933

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                • WhoDisturbsMySlumberW WhoDisturbsMySlumber

                  @jonah what do you think the main objective is in that total control, is it just kind of an experiment? Another reason to fine people or jail them? In America, I think strict laws like this come down to giving banks our real estate in the end.

                  Jonah AragonJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jonah AragonJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jonah Aragon
                  wrote last edited by
                  #39

                  @WhoDisturbsMySlumber https://mastodon.neat.computer/@jonah/115973482132687933

                  Yes that seems plausible 🙃

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                  • Jonah AragonJ Jonah Aragon

                    I think some are still missing the point. I’m not saying they’re going to lock up every single person who uses a VPN or watches porn.

                    Your government’s strategy is to make “crimes” like this as common and easy to commit as possible.

                    This way, if you ever do something completely legal which they *actually* don’t like, *which can be completely unrelated to VPNs or bypassing age verification,* they can pull up your internet history and easily prosecute you.

                    Organize a legitimate protest, and the government’s swift response will be to label you a child sex offender because they found you using evil VPN technology.

                    This is how free speech dies, not from a law that says “free speech is dead now,” but from draconian, authoritarian laws like this that give the government “plausible” reasons to go after anyone, which can’t easily be fought against.

                    This has always been the playbook to target innocents. In the USA, drug possession laws being created as a pretense for cops to raid and dismantle minority communities, for example. And now this is coming to the digital realm.

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                    Ret
                    wrote last edited by
                    #40

                    @jonah

                    The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.

                    Tacitus

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                    • Jonah AragonJ Jonah Aragon

                      I think some are still missing the point. I’m not saying they’re going to lock up every single person who uses a VPN or watches porn.

                      Your government’s strategy is to make “crimes” like this as common and easy to commit as possible.

                      This way, if you ever do something completely legal which they *actually* don’t like, *which can be completely unrelated to VPNs or bypassing age verification,* they can pull up your internet history and easily prosecute you.

                      Organize a legitimate protest, and the government’s swift response will be to label you a child sex offender because they found you using evil VPN technology.

                      This is how free speech dies, not from a law that says “free speech is dead now,” but from draconian, authoritarian laws like this that give the government “plausible” reasons to go after anyone, which can’t easily be fought against.

                      This has always been the playbook to target innocents. In the USA, drug possession laws being created as a pretense for cops to raid and dismantle minority communities, for example. And now this is coming to the digital realm.

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                      Em :official_verified:
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                      @jonah

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                      • Jonah AragonJ Jonah Aragon

                        RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876

                        Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”

                        A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.

                        Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.

                        And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw

                        #UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia

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                        plan-A
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                        #42
                        @jonah They are doing it for a while over here in West EU this age verification for all people with ID just using the pretext to protect our children to have mass surveillance in place.
                        Over here it started with ID on sim card on a mobile, medical information and all in the ID card chip (all chips ping to nearest tower then 2 others to triangulate you if must ).
                        Then the pre paid Master or Visa cards.
                        Then the AI cameras every where. This Orwellian Dystopia is starting to have a track> France as well and in effect soon as other Nations in the EU.
                        theguardian.com/world/2026/jan…
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                        • Jonah AragonJ Jonah Aragon

                          I think some are still missing the point. I’m not saying they’re going to lock up every single person who uses a VPN or watches porn.

                          Your government’s strategy is to make “crimes” like this as common and easy to commit as possible.

                          This way, if you ever do something completely legal which they *actually* don’t like, *which can be completely unrelated to VPNs or bypassing age verification,* they can pull up your internet history and easily prosecute you.

                          Organize a legitimate protest, and the government’s swift response will be to label you a child sex offender because they found you using evil VPN technology.

                          This is how free speech dies, not from a law that says “free speech is dead now,” but from draconian, authoritarian laws like this that give the government “plausible” reasons to go after anyone, which can’t easily be fought against.

                          This has always been the playbook to target innocents. In the USA, drug possession laws being created as a pretense for cops to raid and dismantle minority communities, for example. And now this is coming to the digital realm.

                          JesJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #43

                          @jonah Reminds me of how they have been using the war on drugs

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                          • Jonah AragonJ Jonah Aragon

                            RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876

                            Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”

                            A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.

                            Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.

                            And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw

                            #UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia

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                            Robin Barton
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                            @jonah sooo...you won't be able to watch the degradation of women....so sad

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                            • Jonah AragonJ Jonah Aragon

                              RE: https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/@thenewoil/115971195227745876

                              Next up will be a VPN ban. Many tech-y people will see that and think “lol yeah well that’s not going to stop *me* from using a VPN”

                              A VPN ban isn’t really meant stop you from using one. It means when they catch you doing so, they’ll use the fact you’re using this harmless technology itself as a *pretense* to lock you up without needing to do any “hard work” (i.e. an investigator’s job) like actually confirming whether you committed a real crime.

                              Don’t think you won’t be impacted just because you know how to outsmart an ISP filter! This is not a plan to protect children or stop you from consuming adult media. It is a ploy to eventually eliminate ALL freedom of expression and free access to information in the UK.

                              And the same goes for Chat Control and encrypted messengers, btw

                              #UKpol #VPNban #PornHub #ChatControl #Privacy #FreeSpeech #SocialMedia

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                              @jonah
                              The courts will likely take VPN use as a compounding factor that showed clear and intentional acts to subvert justice and break the law.

                              Using a VPN is also detectable, and would be like waving a flag that says, "hey, come check me out"

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