Matrix: Constant technical difficulties, probably 80% of the troubleshooting of all the services I tried was for Matrix and I couldn't even really figure out why it wasn't working in the end.
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Matrix: Constant technical difficulties, probably 80% of the troubleshooting of all the services I tried was for Matrix and I couldn't even really figure out why it wasn't working in the end. To make matters worse, I actually have experience with Matrix unlike most of the rest of this list
Session: Looks kinda cool, maybe, but I only found one person to chat with on there
Signal groupchats: It's fine, but obviously nowhere close to the features of Discord. But it's easy to use and quite good if what you want is actually a groupchat and not a Discord server
Stoat: Looks cool, unfortunately their infrastructure cannot keep up with demand, like, at all, hopefully they can increase their capacity, but it's a pretty bad experience currently -
Matrix: Constant technical difficulties, probably 80% of the troubleshooting of all the services I tried was for Matrix and I couldn't even really figure out why it wasn't working in the end. To make matters worse, I actually have experience with Matrix unlike most of the rest of this list
Session: Looks kinda cool, maybe, but I only found one person to chat with on there
Signal groupchats: It's fine, but obviously nowhere close to the features of Discord. But it's easy to use and quite good if what you want is actually a groupchat and not a Discord server
Stoat: Looks cool, unfortunately their infrastructure cannot keep up with demand, like, at all, hopefully they can increase their capacity, but it's a pretty bad experience currently@november consider #Zulip, #RocketChat and #IRC + #JitsiMeet / #Mumble?
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@november consider #Zulip, #RocketChat and #IRC + #JitsiMeet / #Mumble?
@kkarhan Self-hosting would not be a good fit for my usecase, and IRC doesn't have message history, which makes it entirely useless. Any that don't run into those issues?
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@kkarhan Self-hosting would not be a good fit for my usecase, and IRC doesn't have message history, which makes it entirely useless. Any that don't run into those issues?
@november well, #Zulip & #RocketChat are self-hosting capable and open-source.
I prefer the former over latter as I've setup it on multiple occasions. But UX is similar.
Same goes for #JitsiMeet over #Mumble.
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@november well, #Zulip & #RocketChat are self-hosting capable and open-source.
I prefer the former over latter as I've setup it on multiple occasions. But UX is similar.
Same goes for #JitsiMeet over #Mumble.
@kkarhan I'm specifically trying to *avoid* self-hosting
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@november you could get those as "managed hosting" options.
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@november you could get those as "managed hosting" options.
RE: https://chaosfem.tw/@november/116048880519245946
@kkarhan Still wouldn't be what I'd want, see this post. It'd need to be something owned and operated by some other entity that can take on the legal responsibility
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RE: https://chaosfem.tw/@november/116048880519245946
@kkarhan Still wouldn't be what I'd want, see this post. It'd need to be something owned and operated by some other entity that can take on the legal responsibility
@november sorry, but if you want to shed any liability, then not even Microsoft Teams will offer you that!
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@november sorry, but if you want to shed any liability, then not even Microsoft Teams will offer you that!
@kkarhan I mean I will make a reasonable effort to keep minors away, I just don't want the responsibility for what exactly counts as a reasonable effort in a legal sense to lie squarely on my shoulders. I just want a service someone else is hosting
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@november sorry, but if you want to shed any liability, then not even Microsoft Teams will offer you that!
@kkarhan Also I don't want the technical complications of self-hosting, either
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@november then consider managed hosting which you can aldo get from Zulip (or whatever hoster of your choice offers that to you)...
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@november then consider managed hosting which you can aldo get from Zulip (or whatever hoster of your choice offers that to you)...
@kkarhan Again, I don't want self-hosting or managed hosting, I want a service someone else is running that I can just join. If there's nothing that fits that, just stop making recommedations
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@november well, #Zulip & #RocketChat are self-hosting capable and open-source.
I prefer the former over latter as I've setup it on multiple occasions. But UX is similar.
Same goes for #JitsiMeet over #Mumble.
@kkarhan@infosec.space @november@chaosfem.tw I ran RocketChat in our last company for little while, as well as MatterMost. It's only partially open-source, and is really designed for small companies, so it's more org focused then user based.
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