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  • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

    @harri @noodlemaz I’m not suggesting they are equal. But I’d argue strongly that morally they are equivalent. Tech bro, extreme right wing run. Both are closing Palestinian accounts right now for eg and censoring liberal voices. So morally identical if technically being shit in different ways.

    ikutursoI This user is from outside of this forum
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    ikuturso
    wrote on last edited by
    #41

    @JimmyB @harri @noodlemaz Zuckerberg has certainly done a lot of bad through his companies but I don't think he is as extreme right-wing as Musk. You didn't see him campaign for the fascist in the White House, run an illegal operation aimed at purging federal institutions inside the administration, shape policies like offering asylum to white South Africans or actively propping up AfD in Germany etc.

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    • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

      You can find us and continue the conversation here:
      Bluesky: greenpartyni.org
      Instagram: greenpartyni
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      Mastodon: mastodon.ie/@greenpartyni
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      Website: greenpartyni.org

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      Fucking bitch Martin VermeerM This user is from outside of this forum
      Fucking bitch Martin VermeerM This user is from outside of this forum
      Fucking bitch Martin Vermeer
      wrote on last edited by
      #42

      @greenpartyni I don't suppose 'what took you so long' is appreciated as a reply

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      • MarianneN Marianne

        @JimmyB @d10c4n3 @harri I agree there's an individual/org difference to consider.
        And there are questions worth asking.
        But if all people see when they quit platforms and come to new/better ones is 'Well it's too little too late' and various scoldings, all that's going to achieve, probably, is driving them away from engaging on said platform.

        So there's a balance to strike. Let's just maybe not immediately jump to the scolding bit when people start doing a bit of hard work - and it is hard, much as these things suck, it's harder for orgs that rely on donations to get away from the highly-trafficked places even though they are shit. Internal pressure works well, too, so people who are members can be doing that.

        d10c4n3D This user is from outside of this forum
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        d10c4n3
        wrote on last edited by
        #43

        @noodlemaz @JimmyB @harri Ah, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to scold them. I don't know what happened to make them decide that X has crossed a threshold beyond which it's impossible for them to continue supporting that platform. Personally, that threshold has already been crossed, as with Meta, etc. That's why I say little and late. But I don't rely on donations and I won't place the blame on anyone. After all, even Graeber's or Fisher's books are on Amazon.

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        • d10c4n3D d10c4n3

          @noodlemaz @JimmyB @harri Ah, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to scold them. I don't know what happened to make them decide that X has crossed a threshold beyond which it's impossible for them to continue supporting that platform. Personally, that threshold has already been crossed, as with Meta, etc. That's why I say little and late. But I don't rely on donations and I won't place the blame on anyone. After all, even Graeber's or Fisher's books are on Amazon.

          MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
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          Marianne
          wrote on last edited by
          #44

          @d10c4n3 @JimmyB I didn't mean you (I don't think, tbh the volume of replies here, I'm quite lost! But no, green avatar person)

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          • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

            We’re leaving X.

            Not for clicks.
            Not for politics.
            For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

            We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

            But this is not an exit from the conversation.
            It’s a move to better spaces.

            Come with us.

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            G This user is from outside of this forum
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            gbsills
            wrote on last edited by
            #45

            @greenpartyni What took you so long?

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            • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

              We’re leaving X.

              Not for clicks.
              Not for politics.
              For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

              We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

              But this is not an exit from the conversation.
              It’s a move to better spaces.

              Come with us.

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              Nic DafisN This user is from outside of this forum
              Nic DafisN This user is from outside of this forum
              Nic Dafis
              wrote on last edited by
              #46

              @greenpartyni I'd say “welcome to Mastodon” but I see you've already met the welcoming committee!

              I wish @plaidcymru would do this - they do have a profile here, but that dates back to November 2022 (when the Welsh Mastodon server was briefly in the media's eye here) and they haven't posted since a fortnight after they joined. Not even cross-posting from other platforms, which would cost them nothing, presumably.

              But then @ZackPolanski is no better - and yes, I know he's not your leader!

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              • MarianneN Marianne

                @d10c4n3 @JimmyB I didn't mean you (I don't think, tbh the volume of replies here, I'm quite lost! But no, green avatar person)

                Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
                Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
                Green Party NI
                wrote on last edited by
                #47

                @noodlemaz @d10c4n3 @JimmyB behind every avatar is a person! 😁💚

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                • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                  @noodlemaz I’d also point out that the line from GPNI is effectively ‘X is now so bad we can’t stay’.

                  Really? It took the latest outrage? Really?

                  Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
                  Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
                  Green Party NI
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #48

                  @JimmyB @noodlemaz don’t be so harsh. Yes we probably should have jumped some time ago as many of us wanted to. But we’re a small volunteer led democratic party with a lot of other things to attend to. And our local press were still there and potentially people who needed to hear our messaging. We’ve mostly been cross-posting with very little engagement so it was not a priority item until the latest outrage.

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                  • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                    We’re leaving X.

                    Not for clicks.
                    Not for politics.
                    For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

                    We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

                    But this is not an exit from the conversation.
                    It’s a move to better spaces.

                    Come with us.

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                    AlbaA This user is from outside of this forum
                    AlbaA This user is from outside of this forum
                    Alba
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #49

                    @greenpartyni Fight to have ban from your country, all European nations should do the same. This is not about infringing free speech, it's about dealing with a cancer that is destroying societies with misinformation and propaganda to suit the agenda of a tech billionaire.
                    Our leaders need more backbone.

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                    • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                      You can find us and continue the conversation here:
                      Bluesky: greenpartyni.org
                      Instagram: greenpartyni
                      Facebook: GreenParty
                      Threads: greenpartyni
                      Mastodon: mastodon.ie/@greenpartyni
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                      YouTube: greenpartynorthernireland
                      Reddit: greenpartyni
                      Website: greenpartyni.org

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                      Marc PalmerM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Marc PalmerM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Marc Palmer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #50

                      I hope other GPs follow. Honestly embarrassing the number of times I’ve had this convo with members/candidates who insist it is better to stay and “balance it out”. Complete nonsense

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                      • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                        We’re leaving X.

                        Not for clicks.
                        Not for politics.
                        For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

                        We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

                        But this is not an exit from the conversation.
                        It’s a move to better spaces.

                        Come with us.

                        1/2

                        J.K.PirieJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        J.K.PirieJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        J.K.Pirie
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #51

                        @greenpartyni
                        Since I (and many others ) figured this one out years ago we are already here
                        So
                        Welcome, what took you so long !😊

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                        • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                          We’re leaving X.

                          Not for clicks.
                          Not for politics.
                          For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

                          We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

                          But this is not an exit from the conversation.
                          It’s a move to better spaces.

                          Come with us.

                          1/2

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                          nusse
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #52

                          @greenpartyni so musk performing the Nazi salute was not enough for you, you needed more?

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                          • Nic DafisN Nic Dafis

                            @greenpartyni I'd say “welcome to Mastodon” but I see you've already met the welcoming committee!

                            I wish @plaidcymru would do this - they do have a profile here, but that dates back to November 2022 (when the Welsh Mastodon server was briefly in the media's eye here) and they haven't posted since a fortnight after they joined. Not even cross-posting from other platforms, which would cost them nothing, presumably.

                            But then @ZackPolanski is no better - and yes, I know he's not your leader!

                            Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
                            Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
                            Green Party NI
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #53

                            @nic @plaidcymru @ZackPolanski thank you. I started this account when I volunteered to manage our social media. We have 10 different accounts to attend to. Plus figuring out what to post when and where! And making videos. And planning ahead. Really it’s a full time job! 🤣

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                            • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                              We’re leaving X.

                              Not for clicks.
                              Not for politics.
                              For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

                              We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

                              But this is not an exit from the conversation.
                              It’s a move to better spaces.

                              Come with us.

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                              Hugh AnnettW This user is from outside of this forum
                              Hugh AnnettW This user is from outside of this forum
                              Hugh Annett
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #54

                              @greenpartyni Good. Better late than never

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                              • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                                @noodlemaz @d10c4n3 @JimmyB behind every avatar is a person! 😁💚

                                MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
                                MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
                                Marianne
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #55

                                @greenpartyni @d10c4n3 @JimmyB lol not you guys, the other person I was talking with who had a go at you for not leaving earlier!

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                                • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                                  @nic @plaidcymru @ZackPolanski thank you. I started this account when I volunteered to manage our social media. We have 10 different accounts to attend to. Plus figuring out what to post when and where! And making videos. And planning ahead. Really it’s a full time job! 🤣

                                  Nic DafisN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Nic DafisN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Nic Dafis
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #56

                                  @greenpartyni this is going to be a niche space, at least for the foreseeable, but you will have a disproportionate level of engagement here, if you put a bit of time into it. Obviously, time is not a infinite resource, so good luck!

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                                  • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                                    You can find us and continue the conversation here:
                                    Bluesky: greenpartyni.org
                                    Instagram: greenpartyni
                                    Facebook: GreenParty
                                    Threads: greenpartyni
                                    Mastodon: mastodon.ie/@greenpartyni
                                    TikTok: greenpartyni
                                    YouTube: greenpartynorthernireland
                                    Reddit: greenpartyni
                                    Website: greenpartyni.org

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                                    😈 Big Huge Donphan 🥵M This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    😈 Big Huge Donphan 🥵
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #57

                                    @greenpartyni Why are you still on Facecrook, Instasham, TikCock, PooTube, Redshit, Deads and PooSky?

                                    Switch to @loops, @pixelfed, Friendica, Lemmy/PieFed, anywhere else on the Fediverse!

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                                    • Fucking bitch Martin VermeerM Fucking bitch Martin Vermeer

                                      @greenpartyni I don't suppose 'what took you so long' is appreciated as a reply

                                      Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏A This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏A This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #58

                                      @martinvermeer @greenpartyni It was a two-year long snap decision. 😂

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                                      • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                                        @JimmyB @noodlemaz don’t be so harsh. Yes we probably should have jumped some time ago as many of us wanted to. But we’re a small volunteer led democratic party with a lot of other things to attend to. And our local press were still there and potentially people who needed to hear our messaging. We’ve mostly been cross-posting with very little engagement so it was not a priority item until the latest outrage.

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                                        JimmyB (he/him)
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #59

                                        @noodlemaz @greenpartyni ok - firstly: I need to apologise. I do not want to criticise the decision to stay or leave. I fully get why folks are still there

                                        For me - and I’m sure I expressed myself badly - it’s the framing which matters (ie *now* we have to go) which kind of normalises what went before. Anyway… I don’t want to be fighting the Green Party who I support wholeheartedly…

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                                        • Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏A Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏

                                          @martinvermeer @greenpartyni It was a two-year long snap decision. 😂

                                          Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Green Party NI
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #60

                                          @alan @martinvermeer no one said it was “snap”. 🤣 Seriously, navigating NI politics is a full time job done by a committed group of passionate volunteers. Some things take time to be ‘obvious’ when you’re holding down full time jobs elsewhere and so many issues to address!

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