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  • Michael McWilliamsM Michael McWilliams

    @greenpartyni If it took you this long to get off X then it's not surprising that you are still on Bluesky, Facebook, Instagram and Threads. It's 2026 for God's sake. Are you not paying attention? Time to wake up! Stop being a collaborator.

    Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
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    Green Party NI
    wrote on last edited by
    #29

    @MichaelMcWilliams it would be great if everyone we need to reach was on one perfect channel. Unfortunately they’re not. We maintain presence on platforms we personally may not like, but getting our messaging to potential members, volunteers, and voters where they are is fundamentally important.

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    • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

      We’re leaving X.

      Not for clicks.
      Not for politics.
      For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

      We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

      But this is not an exit from the conversation.
      It’s a move to better spaces.

      Come with us.

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      matthewcroughanM This user is from outside of this forum
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      matthewcroughan
      wrote on last edited by
      #30
      There is a level of divisiveness in the media and video editing style that I would equate with the Trump campaign, and with American politics, it's edited a bit like an Alex Jones ragebait or WWE. I suppose this is where politics is.
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      • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

        @greenpartyni I’m a big Green Party fan and I try not to wade in and piss on others’ parades but continuing to use Meta platforms, and only leaving X now isn’t somthing to be celebrated…

        Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
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        Green Party NI
        wrote on last edited by
        #31

        @JimmyB we’re a small political party. We have to use platforms to reach potential voters, even if we personally agree with your sentiments.

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        • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

          We’re leaving X.

          Not for clicks.
          Not for politics.
          For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

          We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

          But this is not an exit from the conversation.
          It’s a move to better spaces.

          Come with us.

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          Dawed from GazaD This user is from outside of this forum
          Dawed from GazaD This user is from outside of this forum
          Dawed from Gaza
          wrote on last edited by
          #32

          @greenpartyni
          All social media platforms — Instagram, Facebook, Threads, X, and Bluesky — are partners in the genocide carried out by Israel and the United States against Gaza.

          I say this honestly: I did not find any platform that truly embraces Palestinians and gives them safety to publish, except Mastodon.

          Welcome to the world of Mastodon — a place where there is no space for those who control and support genocide.

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          • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

            We’re leaving X.

            Not for clicks.
            Not for politics.
            For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

            We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

            But this is not an exit from the conversation.
            It’s a move to better spaces.

            Come with us.

            1/2

            coldclimateC This user is from outside of this forum
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            coldclimate
            wrote on last edited by
            #33

            @greenpartyni great stuff. I hope over time you'll leave Meta products too, but it takes time. Most people aren't anywhere else, yet

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            • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

              @d10c4n3 @noodlemaz @harri oh - I agree completely. If folks continue to use those platforms - I really do understand. Individuals (who need to be able to speak to granny, get up to date news feeds - however shitty etc). Makes total sense.

              But please don’t say: this was a step too far and ask us to just suck that up. Surely the framing is: we have to use shitty billionaire media for reasons you all understand and we’ll prioritise non-shitty

              MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
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              Marianne
              wrote on last edited by
              #34

              @JimmyB @d10c4n3 @harri I agree there's an individual/org difference to consider.
              And there are questions worth asking.
              But if all people see when they quit platforms and come to new/better ones is 'Well it's too little too late' and various scoldings, all that's going to achieve, probably, is driving them away from engaging on said platform.

              So there's a balance to strike. Let's just maybe not immediately jump to the scolding bit when people start doing a bit of hard work - and it is hard, much as these things suck, it's harder for orgs that rely on donations to get away from the highly-trafficked places even though they are shit. Internal pressure works well, too, so people who are members can be doing that.

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              • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                @harri @noodlemaz sure - but they can frame it that way. Not - hey look: we don’t like paedophiles so we’re quitting X.

                That’s just rubbish. After all - what’s the difference between X today and X pre-latest scandal? Or X and Bluesky, Threads, FB etc?

                MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
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                Marianne
                wrote on last edited by
                #35

                @JimmyB @harri and practically? Bluesky and Threads don't have an accessible AI that men are using to abuse and harass women and children multiple, many times daily, right now. That IS a material difference. You won't find me on bsky or threads, but to pretend they're exactly the same (for users/in terms of brand reputation impact etc.) is just unserious.

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                • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                  @noodlemaz I’d also point out that the line from GPNI is effectively ‘X is now so bad we can’t stay’.

                  Really? It took the latest outrage? Really?

                  MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Marianne
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #36

                  @JimmyB Yes this is a fair question (I'm working so I'm getting to replies all at once, apologies for the deluge)

                  But it's not one we need to throw at every person/org that's just quit the shit thing, finally - yes it's weird it's this late. But questioning that at them, loudly, the second they depart? Not convinced that's helpful for anything.

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                  • MarianneN Marianne

                    @JimmyB Yes this is a fair question (I'm working so I'm getting to replies all at once, apologies for the deluge)

                    But it's not one we need to throw at every person/org that's just quit the shit thing, finally - yes it's weird it's this late. But questioning that at them, loudly, the second they depart? Not convinced that's helpful for anything.

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                    JimmyB (he/him)
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #37

                    @noodlemaz so I definitely don’t throw this at everyone - in fact I wonder if I’ve ever done it before?

                    And I put up a simple post - fairly mild. Was that really so bad? Because I think their post was shocking tbh…

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                    • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                      @JimmyB we’re a small political party. We have to use platforms to reach potential voters, even if we personally agree with your sentiments.

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                      JimmyB (he/him)
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #38

                      @greenpartyni excellent… I understand. Anyway - not much more for me to add to this thread.

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                      • MarianneN Marianne

                        @JimmyB @harri and practically? Bluesky and Threads don't have an accessible AI that men are using to abuse and harass women and children multiple, many times daily, right now. That IS a material difference. You won't find me on bsky or threads, but to pretend they're exactly the same (for users/in terms of brand reputation impact etc.) is just unserious.

                        JimmyB (he/him)J This user is from outside of this forum
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                        JimmyB (he/him)
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #39

                        @harri @noodlemaz I’m not suggesting they are equal. But I’d argue strongly that morally they are equivalent. Tech bro, extreme right wing run. Both are closing Palestinian accounts right now for eg and censoring liberal voices. So morally identical if technically being shit in different ways.

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                        • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                          We’re leaving X.

                          Not for clicks.
                          Not for politics.
                          For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

                          We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

                          But this is not an exit from the conversation.
                          It’s a move to better spaces.

                          Come with us.

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                          zotheca
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #40

                          @greenpartyni good decision

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                          • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                            @harri @noodlemaz I’m not suggesting they are equal. But I’d argue strongly that morally they are equivalent. Tech bro, extreme right wing run. Both are closing Palestinian accounts right now for eg and censoring liberal voices. So morally identical if technically being shit in different ways.

                            ikutursoI This user is from outside of this forum
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                            ikuturso
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #41

                            @JimmyB @harri @noodlemaz Zuckerberg has certainly done a lot of bad through his companies but I don't think he is as extreme right-wing as Musk. You didn't see him campaign for the fascist in the White House, run an illegal operation aimed at purging federal institutions inside the administration, shape policies like offering asylum to white South Africans or actively propping up AfD in Germany etc.

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                            • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                              You can find us and continue the conversation here:
                              Bluesky: greenpartyni.org
                              Instagram: greenpartyni
                              Facebook: GreenParty
                              Threads: greenpartyni
                              Mastodon: mastodon.ie/@greenpartyni
                              TikTok: greenpartyni
                              YouTube: greenpartynorthernireland
                              Reddit: greenpartyni
                              Website: greenpartyni.org

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                              Fucking bitch Martin VermeerM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Fucking bitch Martin Vermeer
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #42

                              @greenpartyni I don't suppose 'what took you so long' is appreciated as a reply

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                              • MarianneN Marianne

                                @JimmyB @d10c4n3 @harri I agree there's an individual/org difference to consider.
                                And there are questions worth asking.
                                But if all people see when they quit platforms and come to new/better ones is 'Well it's too little too late' and various scoldings, all that's going to achieve, probably, is driving them away from engaging on said platform.

                                So there's a balance to strike. Let's just maybe not immediately jump to the scolding bit when people start doing a bit of hard work - and it is hard, much as these things suck, it's harder for orgs that rely on donations to get away from the highly-trafficked places even though they are shit. Internal pressure works well, too, so people who are members can be doing that.

                                d10c4n3D This user is from outside of this forum
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                                d10c4n3
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #43

                                @noodlemaz @JimmyB @harri Ah, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to scold them. I don't know what happened to make them decide that X has crossed a threshold beyond which it's impossible for them to continue supporting that platform. Personally, that threshold has already been crossed, as with Meta, etc. That's why I say little and late. But I don't rely on donations and I won't place the blame on anyone. After all, even Graeber's or Fisher's books are on Amazon.

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                                • d10c4n3D d10c4n3

                                  @noodlemaz @JimmyB @harri Ah, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to scold them. I don't know what happened to make them decide that X has crossed a threshold beyond which it's impossible for them to continue supporting that platform. Personally, that threshold has already been crossed, as with Meta, etc. That's why I say little and late. But I don't rely on donations and I won't place the blame on anyone. After all, even Graeber's or Fisher's books are on Amazon.

                                  MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Marianne
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #44

                                  @d10c4n3 @JimmyB I didn't mean you (I don't think, tbh the volume of replies here, I'm quite lost! But no, green avatar person)

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                                  • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                                    We’re leaving X.

                                    Not for clicks.
                                    Not for politics.
                                    For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

                                    We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

                                    But this is not an exit from the conversation.
                                    It’s a move to better spaces.

                                    Come with us.

                                    1/2

                                    G This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    gbsills
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #45

                                    @greenpartyni What took you so long?

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                                    • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                                      We’re leaving X.

                                      Not for clicks.
                                      Not for politics.
                                      For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

                                      We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

                                      But this is not an exit from the conversation.
                                      It’s a move to better spaces.

                                      Come with us.

                                      1/2

                                      Nic DafisN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Nic DafisN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Nic Dafis
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #46

                                      @greenpartyni I'd say “welcome to Mastodon” but I see you've already met the welcoming committee!

                                      I wish @plaidcymru would do this - they do have a profile here, but that dates back to November 2022 (when the Welsh Mastodon server was briefly in the media's eye here) and they haven't posted since a fortnight after they joined. Not even cross-posting from other platforms, which would cost them nothing, presumably.

                                      But then @ZackPolanski is no better - and yes, I know he's not your leader!

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                                      • MarianneN Marianne

                                        @d10c4n3 @JimmyB I didn't mean you (I don't think, tbh the volume of replies here, I'm quite lost! But no, green avatar person)

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                                        Green Party NI
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #47

                                        @noodlemaz @d10c4n3 @JimmyB behind every avatar is a person! 😁💚

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                                        • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                                          @noodlemaz I’d also point out that the line from GPNI is effectively ‘X is now so bad we can’t stay’.

                                          Really? It took the latest outrage? Really?

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                                          Green Party NI
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #48

                                          @JimmyB @noodlemaz don’t be so harsh. Yes we probably should have jumped some time ago as many of us wanted to. But we’re a small volunteer led democratic party with a lot of other things to attend to. And our local press were still there and potentially people who needed to hear our messaging. We’ve mostly been cross-posting with very little engagement so it was not a priority item until the latest outrage.

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