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  • Katrina Katrinka :donor:K Katrina Katrinka :donor:

    @msbellows
    What you propose is not what happened. Therefore, not my argument. I'm not interested in "what ifs".

    "A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.[1]"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

    M.S. Bellows, Jr.M This user is from outside of this forum
    M.S. Bellows, Jr.M This user is from outside of this forum
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    #90

    @katrinakatrinka He did both. I'm asking which one troubled you. You're being evasive, which means you see this as an argument rather than a discussion, and therefore you're not worth my time. Goodbye and be well, if that's possible for you.

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    • Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
      Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Jakra And to many of us older Blacks,that word is an insult. Period.

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      • Cairo BragaC Cairo Braga

        @IveyJanette @venitamathias they didn't edit this out, but they censored a Palestinian filmmaker saying "Free Palestine". this were deliberate decisions by the BBC.

        Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
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        #92

        @cairobraga @venitamathias The BBC did its version of the same selective editing that Fox routinely does whenever Trump shows up at sporting events not named NASCAR or LIV Golf: edit out the boos.

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        • Ivey Janette McClellandI Ivey Janette McClelland

          Bullshit.

          #blackmastodon
          https://newsone.com/6850753/tourettes-tic-blamed-nword-being-yelled-baftas/

          Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
          Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #93

          This is why the apology is not being accepted:

          #blackmastodon https://newsone.com/6850861/black-people-dont-have-accept-john-davidson-apology/

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          • Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
            Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
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            #94

            @venitamathias @cairobraga When Trump was at the Super Bowl last year and at the Commanders game? Fox piped in fake cheers,even though the crowd booed him vociferously. ESPN did the same thing when he showed up at the US Open in Queens. Conform or be cast out.

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            • PeachMcDP PeachMcD

              @rochelimit @thiswomanswerk

              "Apologies are extended 'if you are offended.' 

              If. As though the harm is hypothetical and the racial slur exists only in the realm of personal sensitivity.  If. As though what happened depends on whether Black people choose to register it. That phrasing shifts the harm from something that happened to something people might feel. The problem subtly relocates from the racial act to Black folks’ reaction."

              Andrea is wearing a kufiT This user is from outside of this forum
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              Andrea is wearing a kufi
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              @PeachMcD I mean I think to ppl like roche harm to black people is indeed hypothetical--given I had to nearly cuss them out for them to even acknowledge the use of the slur was harmful.

              Now it's context this and context that, except, conveniently, for the context of the harm it causes Black people

              Their use of "debate" is very revealing because the ppl in the thread they initially responded were not in a debate. They were in pain. But Black pain is always up for debate and discussion on here.

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              • M.S. Bellows, Jr.M M.S. Bellows, Jr.

                @katrinakatrinka He did both. I'm asking which one troubled you. You're being evasive, which means you see this as an argument rather than a discussion, and therefore you're not worth my time. Goodbye and be well, if that's possible for you.

                Katrina Katrinka :donor:K This user is from outside of this forum
                Katrina Katrinka :donor:K This user is from outside of this forum
                Katrina Katrinka :donor:
                wrote last edited by
                #96

                @msbellows
                "I'm asking..."

                You're "refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction."

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                • Ericka SimoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @venitamathias @msbellows let him know we know he only blocks black women holding him accountable. Not other white people doing the same though.

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                  • Andrea is wearing a kufiT Andrea is wearing a kufi

                    @PeachMcD I mean I think to ppl like roche harm to black people is indeed hypothetical--given I had to nearly cuss them out for them to even acknowledge the use of the slur was harmful.

                    Now it's context this and context that, except, conveniently, for the context of the harm it causes Black people

                    Their use of "debate" is very revealing because the ppl in the thread they initially responded were not in a debate. They were in pain. But Black pain is always up for debate and discussion on here.

                    PeachMcDP This user is from outside of this forum
                    PeachMcDP This user is from outside of this forum
                    PeachMcD
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                    #98

                    @thiswomanswerk

                    I'm quick to mute tone deaf reply guys & to follow/boost #BIPOC voices here

                    X is such a toxic space - I want #BlackMastodon to be a place folks can replicate that synergy & freedom without the ads & algorithms

                    Solidarity from Tacoma!
                    🕊🇵🇸

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                    • Roche LimitR Roche Limit

                      @thiswomanswerk
                      My first comment was to agree with a black poster, that it is wrong to suggest that a person with a neurological condition should be kept away from the ceremony because words, which do not represent that person's feelings, will cause upset.

                      The idea that one innocent group should be protected at the expense of another is something worth debating, isn't it? When balancing rights, the importance of context cannot be ignored.

                      Steve GisselbrechtS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #99

                      @rochelimit @thiswomanswerk

                      I am begging you to stop telling Black people how they should respond to experiencing racism.

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                      • Ericka SimoneE Ericka Simone

                        @venitamathias @msbellows let him know we know he only blocks black women holding him accountable. Not other white people doing the same though.

                        VenitaV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Venita
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                        #100

                        @ErickaSimone @msbellows He should protect his peace. I definitely protect mine.

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                        • Steve GisselbrechtS Steve Gisselbrecht

                          @rochelimit @thiswomanswerk

                          I am begging you to stop telling Black people how they should respond to experiencing racism.

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                          @stevegis_ssg
                          I stopped over 12 h ago when I realised my server had only shown me one post from this thread and that I'd rudely intruded in the middle bigger and rather private discussion.
                          @thiswomanswerk

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                          • Ivey Janette McClellandI Ivey Janette McClelland

                            Bullshit.

                            #blackmastodon
                            https://newsone.com/6850753/tourettes-tic-blamed-nword-being-yelled-baftas/

                            Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #102

                            Here's a response from a Black woman with Tourette's:

                            #blackmastodon https://newsone.com/6850785/black-woman-with-tourettes-offers-context-to-bafta-incident/

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                            • VenitaV Venita

                              @ErickaSimone @msbellows He should protect his peace. I definitely protect mine.

                              Ericka SimoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Ericka Simone
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                              #103

                              @venitamathias @msbellows he deserves no peace.

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