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  • M.S. Bellows, Jr.M M.S. Bellows, Jr.

    @oldclumsy_nowmad Oh, that's a PERFECT example of what went wrong with BAFTA! That other driver isn't at fault for blanking out, but he IS at fault for choosing to drive if he knew it might be hazardous to other people.

    Roy -- the dull oneO This user is from outside of this forum
    Roy -- the dull oneO This user is from outside of this forum
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    @msbellows

    Yes! A medical condition doesn't excuse us from responsibility. It's appropriate to be angry when people knowingly put us at risk.

    However, it isn't right to infer, without additional evidence, that a socially unacceptable behavior necessarily reveals a secret "mindset" of the offender. And it's really dumb to think like this: "There! I knew it! That bald guy tried to run me off the road! It's true that bald men hate people with long hair like mine!"

    Thanks for posting!

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    • Katrina Katrinka :donor:K Katrina Katrinka :donor:

      @msbellows
      What you propose is not what happened. Therefore, not my argument. I'm not interested in "what ifs".

      "A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.[1]"
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

      M.S. Bellows, Jr.M This user is from outside of this forum
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      @katrinakatrinka He did both. I'm asking which one troubled you. You're being evasive, which means you see this as an argument rather than a discussion, and therefore you're not worth my time. Goodbye and be well, if that's possible for you.

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      • Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
        Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Jakra And to many of us older Blacks,that word is an insult. Period.

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        • Cairo BragaC Cairo Braga

          @IveyJanette @venitamathias they didn't edit this out, but they censored a Palestinian filmmaker saying "Free Palestine". this were deliberate decisions by the BBC.

          Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cairobraga @venitamathias The BBC did its version of the same selective editing that Fox routinely does whenever Trump shows up at sporting events not named NASCAR or LIV Golf: edit out the boos.

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          • Ivey Janette McClellandI Ivey Janette McClelland

            Bullshit.

            #blackmastodon
            https://newsone.com/6850753/tourettes-tic-blamed-nword-being-yelled-baftas/

            Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
            Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
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            #93

            This is why the apology is not being accepted:

            #blackmastodon https://newsone.com/6850861/black-people-dont-have-accept-john-davidson-apology/

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            • Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
              Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
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              @venitamathias @cairobraga When Trump was at the Super Bowl last year and at the Commanders game? Fox piped in fake cheers,even though the crowd booed him vociferously. ESPN did the same thing when he showed up at the US Open in Queens. Conform or be cast out.

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              • PeachMcDP PeachMcD

                @rochelimit @thiswomanswerk

                "Apologies are extended 'if you are offended.' 

                If. As though the harm is hypothetical and the racial slur exists only in the realm of personal sensitivity.  If. As though what happened depends on whether Black people choose to register it. That phrasing shifts the harm from something that happened to something people might feel. The problem subtly relocates from the racial act to Black folks’ reaction."

                Andrea is wearing a kufiT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @PeachMcD I mean I think to ppl like roche harm to black people is indeed hypothetical--given I had to nearly cuss them out for them to even acknowledge the use of the slur was harmful.

                Now it's context this and context that, except, conveniently, for the context of the harm it causes Black people

                Their use of "debate" is very revealing because the ppl in the thread they initially responded were not in a debate. They were in pain. But Black pain is always up for debate and discussion on here.

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                • M.S. Bellows, Jr.M M.S. Bellows, Jr.

                  @katrinakatrinka He did both. I'm asking which one troubled you. You're being evasive, which means you see this as an argument rather than a discussion, and therefore you're not worth my time. Goodbye and be well, if that's possible for you.

                  Katrina Katrinka :donor:K This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @msbellows
                  "I'm asking..."

                  You're "refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction."

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                  • Ericka SimoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @venitamathias @msbellows let him know we know he only blocks black women holding him accountable. Not other white people doing the same though.

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                    • Andrea is wearing a kufiT Andrea is wearing a kufi

                      @PeachMcD I mean I think to ppl like roche harm to black people is indeed hypothetical--given I had to nearly cuss them out for them to even acknowledge the use of the slur was harmful.

                      Now it's context this and context that, except, conveniently, for the context of the harm it causes Black people

                      Their use of "debate" is very revealing because the ppl in the thread they initially responded were not in a debate. They were in pain. But Black pain is always up for debate and discussion on here.

                      PeachMcDP This user is from outside of this forum
                      PeachMcDP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @thiswomanswerk

                      I'm quick to mute tone deaf reply guys & to follow/boost #BIPOC voices here

                      X is such a toxic space - I want #BlackMastodon to be a place folks can replicate that synergy & freedom without the ads & algorithms

                      Solidarity from Tacoma!
                      🕊🇵🇸

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                      • Roche LimitR Roche Limit

                        @thiswomanswerk
                        My first comment was to agree with a black poster, that it is wrong to suggest that a person with a neurological condition should be kept away from the ceremony because words, which do not represent that person's feelings, will cause upset.

                        The idea that one innocent group should be protected at the expense of another is something worth debating, isn't it? When balancing rights, the importance of context cannot be ignored.

                        Steve GisselbrechtS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #99

                        @rochelimit @thiswomanswerk

                        I am begging you to stop telling Black people how they should respond to experiencing racism.

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                        • Ericka SimoneE Ericka Simone

                          @venitamathias @msbellows let him know we know he only blocks black women holding him accountable. Not other white people doing the same though.

                          VenitaV This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @ErickaSimone @msbellows He should protect his peace. I definitely protect mine.

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                          • Steve GisselbrechtS Steve Gisselbrecht

                            @rochelimit @thiswomanswerk

                            I am begging you to stop telling Black people how they should respond to experiencing racism.

                            Roche LimitR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @stevegis_ssg
                            I stopped over 12 h ago when I realised my server had only shown me one post from this thread and that I'd rudely intruded in the middle bigger and rather private discussion.
                            @thiswomanswerk

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                            • Ivey Janette McClellandI Ivey Janette McClelland

                              Bullshit.

                              #blackmastodon
                              https://newsone.com/6850753/tourettes-tic-blamed-nword-being-yelled-baftas/

                              Ivey Janette McClellandI This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #102

                              Here's a response from a Black woman with Tourette's:

                              #blackmastodon https://newsone.com/6850785/black-woman-with-tourettes-offers-context-to-bafta-incident/

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                              • VenitaV Venita

                                @ErickaSimone @msbellows He should protect his peace. I definitely protect mine.

                                Ericka SimoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Ericka Simone
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                                #103

                                @venitamathias @msbellows he deserves no peace.

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