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  • Hegelian PrincessJ Hegelian Princess

    @ohmu @aral Germany was doing genocides decades before Hitler decided to look to the US for inspiration

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    @julieofthespirits @aral
    I was worried this would become a perverse sort of competition.
    I yield.
    And may we meet some day in person, fighting this evil.

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    • jdbJ jdb

      @aral @nemo
      Done.

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      @jdb @aral

      😁 👍

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      • Weird SocksO Weird Socks

        @julieofthespirits @aral
        I was worried this would become a perverse sort of competition.
        I yield.
        And may we meet some day in person, fighting this evil.

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        wrote last edited by
        #20

        @ohmu @aral I don't think it should be a competition, Germany and the US have both done plenty of terrible things in their respective histories, I just think that the particular narrative of "the Holocaust was copied from the US" is problematic because it erases the Herero Genocide

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        • Hegelian PrincessJ Hegelian Princess

          @ohmu @aral I don't think it should be a competition, Germany and the US have both done plenty of terrible things in their respective histories, I just think that the particular narrative of "the Holocaust was copied from the US" is problematic because it erases the Herero Genocide

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          @julieofthespirits @aral
          Ok. I see what you're saying.
          I agree. No direction discourse might take should allow that to be forgotten.

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          • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

            @aral yeah - blocked instantly. 😀😀😀 but I got a report in first.

            I suspect the instance needs a #fediblock maybe

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            @aral That account is suspended...happy days.

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            • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

              @aral That account is suspended...happy days.

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              #23

              @JimmyB 👍

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              • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                In case you want to report this Zionist hasbara account that posted this reply and blocked me, please feel free to.

                (This is their new tactic. The anonymous cowards.)

                PS. Be careful, they’re on a German instance, they might block you instead if the admins are pro-genocide also (it’s a very common thing in Germany).

                #zionism #hasbara #fediverse #mastodon #fediblock #israel #settlerColonialism #ethnicCleansing #apartheid #genocide

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                @aral@mastodon.ar.al the account has now been limited on the main instance and suspended, among the others, by mas.to, fosstodon, hachyderm and kolektiva.

                It's however still active on berlin.social.

                The complicity of some German instances in genocide denialism starts to be extremely disturbing.

                @cepharum@berlin.social I guess that you have received dozens of reports about this account, and other large instances (including the main one) have already proceeded to limit it or suspend it in order to protect their users.

                This account is with very high confidence a clone of the accounts that I have already reported here https://manganiello.eu/@fabio/posts/B3LMkqCqoOHaWoJJRY.

                Same techniques, same memes shared from this propaganda page https://www.instagram.com/movement_against_antizionism/

                We're not talking of legitimate opinions here, we're talking of literal Hasbara propaganda accounts whose job is to silence all criticism of Israel on social media and incite serial harassment against those who support Palestinians.

                Are you ok with this? Or shall we call Fediblock?

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                • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                  @aral That account is suspended...happy days.

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                  #25

                  @JimmyB They’re still active: https://berlin.social/@hydra4455

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                  • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                    @JimmyB They’re still active: https://berlin.social/@hydra4455

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #26

                    @aral huh! Was reinstated? Was defo suspended the other day

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                    • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                      @aral huh! Was reinstated? Was defo suspended the other day

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                      #27

                      @JimmyB
                      @fabio wrote that they’re suspended on mas.to so maybe that’s why you saw it as suspended? If they were suspended and then reinstated on their home server that’s almost even worse than not being suspended at all.

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                      • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                        In case you want to report this Zionist hasbara account that posted this reply and blocked me, please feel free to.

                        (This is their new tactic. The anonymous cowards.)

                        PS. Be careful, they’re on a German instance, they might block you instead if the admins are pro-genocide also (it’s a very common thing in Germany).

                        #zionism #hasbara #fediverse #mastodon #fediblock #israel #settlerColonialism #ethnicCleansing #apartheid #genocide

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                        Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸
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                        @aral Blocked and done

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                        • Fabio ManganielloF Fabio Manganiello

                          @aral@mastodon.ar.al the account has now been limited on the main instance and suspended, among the others, by mas.to, fosstodon, hachyderm and kolektiva.

                          It's however still active on berlin.social.

                          The complicity of some German instances in genocide denialism starts to be extremely disturbing.

                          @cepharum@berlin.social I guess that you have received dozens of reports about this account, and other large instances (including the main one) have already proceeded to limit it or suspend it in order to protect their users.

                          This account is with very high confidence a clone of the accounts that I have already reported here https://manganiello.eu/@fabio/posts/B3LMkqCqoOHaWoJJRY.

                          Same techniques, same memes shared from this propaganda page https://www.instagram.com/movement_against_antizionism/

                          We're not talking of legitimate opinions here, we're talking of literal Hasbara propaganda accounts whose job is to silence all criticism of Israel on social media and incite serial harassment against those who support Palestinians.

                          Are you ok with this? Or shall we call Fediblock?

                          LukefromDCL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          LukefromDC
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                          @fabio @cepharum @aral My advice? Show them no more mercy that Israel does Palestininan prisoners

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                          • LukefromDCL LukefromDC

                            @fabio @cepharum @aral My advice? Show them no more mercy that Israel does Palestininan prisoners

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                            @LukefromDC @fabio @aral We are closely monitoring the account and moderating its posts based on German law as we are required to do. This does not exclude an eventual blocking of the account, but we are not there, yet.

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                            • cepharumC cepharum

                              @LukefromDC @fabio @aral We are closely monitoring the account and moderating its posts based on German law as we are required to do. This does not exclude an eventual blocking of the account, but we are not there, yet.

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                              @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio Do you have a set of moral or ethnical guidelines for your server beyond German law?

                              Asking as it likely has implications for inclusion in Mastodon’s upcoming recommended servers initiative (CC @haubles) as I’m assuming a server that allows the antisemitic conflation of Zionism with all Jews and the harassment and libel of people who oppose genocide with bot-like behaviour that includes replying to threads and then blocking the original author would not be allowed.

                              Remember that legal does not mean moral or ethical. Slavery was legal in the US. The Holocaust was legal in Nazi Germany.

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                              • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                                @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio Do you have a set of moral or ethnical guidelines for your server beyond German law?

                                Asking as it likely has implications for inclusion in Mastodon’s upcoming recommended servers initiative (CC @haubles) as I’m assuming a server that allows the antisemitic conflation of Zionism with all Jews and the harassment and libel of people who oppose genocide with bot-like behaviour that includes replying to threads and then blocking the original author would not be allowed.

                                Remember that legal does not mean moral or ethical. Slavery was legal in the US. The Holocaust was legal in Nazi Germany.

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                                cepharum
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                                #32

                                @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Our guidelines are not beyond German law, but in line with it as the German law is anything but alike the law of Nazi Germany as you try to imply.

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                                • cepharumC cepharum

                                  @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Our guidelines are not beyond German law, but in line with it as the German law is anything but alike the law of Nazi Germany as you try to imply.

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                                  @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Not implying anything. Just saying that “legal” is a very low bar for the fediverse.

                                  And Germany is the second largest arms dealer to Israel and thus complicit in Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. So apologies if I don’t have too much trust in it protecting the interests of genocide victims today.

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                                  • cepharumC cepharum

                                    @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Our guidelines are not beyond German law, but in line with it as the German law is anything but alike the law of Nazi Germany as you try to imply.

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                                    @cepharum @aral's point is that German law is not sufficient in this particular case. Your pseudo-neutrality on this matter amounts to conformism to the power structures in place.

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                                    • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                                      @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Not implying anything. Just saying that “legal” is a very low bar for the fediverse.

                                      And Germany is the second largest arms dealer to Israel and thus complicit in Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. So apologies if I don’t have too much trust in it protecting the interests of genocide victims today.

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                                      @aral I hope I'm wrong, but given the overeager laws (or interpretations thereof) in Germany, I wonder if Fediverse instances banning trolls or spammers who claim to be Jews run the risk of being labelled "antisemitic"?

                                      @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles

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                                      • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                                        @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Not implying anything. Just saying that “legal” is a very low bar for the fediverse.

                                        And Germany is the second largest arms dealer to Israel and thus complicit in Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. So apologies if I don’t have too much trust in it protecting the interests of genocide victims today.

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                                        wrote last edited by
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                                        @aral @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Agreed - an instance that is not going beyond "Is it legal" is not really doing their job.

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                                        • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                                          @JimmyB
                                          @fabio wrote that they’re suspended on mas.to so maybe that’s why you saw it as suspended? If they were suspended and then reinstated on their home server that’s almost even worse than not being suspended at all.

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                                          @aral

                                          I agree Aral: the idea that someone suspended the account, then took a look at the content and said - Oh, actually that's fine - is horrible. Hopefully not the case.

                                          @fabio

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