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In case you want to report this Zionist hasbara account that posted this reply and blocked me, please feel free to.

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  • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

    In case you want to report this Zionist hasbara account that posted this reply and blocked me, please feel free to.

    (This is their new tactic. The anonymous cowards.)

    PS. Be careful, they’re on a German instance, they might block you instead if the admins are pro-genocide also (it’s a very common thing in Germany).

    #zionism #hasbara #fediverse #mastodon #fediblock #israel #settlerColonialism #ethnicCleansing #apartheid #genocide

    Fabio ManganielloF This user is from outside of this forum
    Fabio ManganielloF This user is from outside of this forum
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    @aral@mastodon.ar.al the account has now been limited on the main instance and suspended, among the others, by mas.to, fosstodon, hachyderm and kolektiva.

    It's however still active on berlin.social.

    The complicity of some German instances in genocide denialism starts to be extremely disturbing.

    @cepharum@berlin.social I guess that you have received dozens of reports about this account, and other large instances (including the main one) have already proceeded to limit it or suspend it in order to protect their users.

    This account is with very high confidence a clone of the accounts that I have already reported here https://manganiello.eu/@fabio/posts/B3LMkqCqoOHaWoJJRY.

    Same techniques, same memes shared from this propaganda page https://www.instagram.com/movement_against_antizionism/

    We're not talking of legitimate opinions here, we're talking of literal Hasbara propaganda accounts whose job is to silence all criticism of Israel on social media and incite serial harassment against those who support Palestinians.

    Are you ok with this? Or shall we call Fediblock?

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    • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

      @aral That account is suspended...happy days.

      Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @JimmyB They’re still active: https://berlin.social/@hydra4455

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      • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

        @JimmyB They’re still active: https://berlin.social/@hydra4455

        JimmyB (he/him)J This user is from outside of this forum
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        JimmyB (he/him)
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        @aral huh! Was reinstated? Was defo suspended the other day

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        • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

          @aral huh! Was reinstated? Was defo suspended the other day

          Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
          Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
          Aral Balkan
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          #27

          @JimmyB
          @fabio wrote that they’re suspended on mas.to so maybe that’s why you saw it as suspended? If they were suspended and then reinstated on their home server that’s almost even worse than not being suspended at all.

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          • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

            In case you want to report this Zionist hasbara account that posted this reply and blocked me, please feel free to.

            (This is their new tactic. The anonymous cowards.)

            PS. Be careful, they’re on a German instance, they might block you instead if the admins are pro-genocide also (it’s a very common thing in Germany).

            #zionism #hasbara #fediverse #mastodon #fediblock #israel #settlerColonialism #ethnicCleansing #apartheid #genocide

            Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸D This user is from outside of this forum
            Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸D This user is from outside of this forum
            Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸
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            @aral Blocked and done

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            • Fabio ManganielloF Fabio Manganiello

              @aral@mastodon.ar.al the account has now been limited on the main instance and suspended, among the others, by mas.to, fosstodon, hachyderm and kolektiva.

              It's however still active on berlin.social.

              The complicity of some German instances in genocide denialism starts to be extremely disturbing.

              @cepharum@berlin.social I guess that you have received dozens of reports about this account, and other large instances (including the main one) have already proceeded to limit it or suspend it in order to protect their users.

              This account is with very high confidence a clone of the accounts that I have already reported here https://manganiello.eu/@fabio/posts/B3LMkqCqoOHaWoJJRY.

              Same techniques, same memes shared from this propaganda page https://www.instagram.com/movement_against_antizionism/

              We're not talking of legitimate opinions here, we're talking of literal Hasbara propaganda accounts whose job is to silence all criticism of Israel on social media and incite serial harassment against those who support Palestinians.

              Are you ok with this? Or shall we call Fediblock?

              LukefromDCL This user is from outside of this forum
              LukefromDCL This user is from outside of this forum
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              @fabio @cepharum @aral My advice? Show them no more mercy that Israel does Palestininan prisoners

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              • LukefromDCL LukefromDC

                @fabio @cepharum @aral My advice? Show them no more mercy that Israel does Palestininan prisoners

                cepharumC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @LukefromDC @fabio @aral We are closely monitoring the account and moderating its posts based on German law as we are required to do. This does not exclude an eventual blocking of the account, but we are not there, yet.

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                • cepharumC cepharum

                  @LukefromDC @fabio @aral We are closely monitoring the account and moderating its posts based on German law as we are required to do. This does not exclude an eventual blocking of the account, but we are not there, yet.

                  Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio Do you have a set of moral or ethnical guidelines for your server beyond German law?

                  Asking as it likely has implications for inclusion in Mastodon’s upcoming recommended servers initiative (CC @haubles) as I’m assuming a server that allows the antisemitic conflation of Zionism with all Jews and the harassment and libel of people who oppose genocide with bot-like behaviour that includes replying to threads and then blocking the original author would not be allowed.

                  Remember that legal does not mean moral or ethical. Slavery was legal in the US. The Holocaust was legal in Nazi Germany.

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                  • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                    @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio Do you have a set of moral or ethnical guidelines for your server beyond German law?

                    Asking as it likely has implications for inclusion in Mastodon’s upcoming recommended servers initiative (CC @haubles) as I’m assuming a server that allows the antisemitic conflation of Zionism with all Jews and the harassment and libel of people who oppose genocide with bot-like behaviour that includes replying to threads and then blocking the original author would not be allowed.

                    Remember that legal does not mean moral or ethical. Slavery was legal in the US. The Holocaust was legal in Nazi Germany.

                    cepharumC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Our guidelines are not beyond German law, but in line with it as the German law is anything but alike the law of Nazi Germany as you try to imply.

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                    • cepharumC cepharum

                      @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Our guidelines are not beyond German law, but in line with it as the German law is anything but alike the law of Nazi Germany as you try to imply.

                      Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Not implying anything. Just saying that “legal” is a very low bar for the fediverse.

                      And Germany is the second largest arms dealer to Israel and thus complicit in Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. So apologies if I don’t have too much trust in it protecting the interests of genocide victims today.

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                      • cepharumC cepharum

                        @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Our guidelines are not beyond German law, but in line with it as the German law is anything but alike the law of Nazi Germany as you try to imply.

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                        @cepharum @aral's point is that German law is not sufficient in this particular case. Your pseudo-neutrality on this matter amounts to conformism to the power structures in place.

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                        • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                          @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Not implying anything. Just saying that “legal” is a very low bar for the fediverse.

                          And Germany is the second largest arms dealer to Israel and thus complicit in Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. So apologies if I don’t have too much trust in it protecting the interests of genocide victims today.

                          Hippo 🍉B This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Hippo 🍉
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                          @aral I hope I'm wrong, but given the overeager laws (or interpretations thereof) in Germany, I wonder if Fediverse instances banning trolls or spammers who claim to be Jews run the risk of being labelled "antisemitic"?

                          @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles

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                          • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                            @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Not implying anything. Just saying that “legal” is a very low bar for the fediverse.

                            And Germany is the second largest arms dealer to Israel and thus complicit in Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. So apologies if I don’t have too much trust in it protecting the interests of genocide victims today.

                            SchroedingerS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Schroedinger
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                            @aral @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Agreed - an instance that is not going beyond "Is it legal" is not really doing their job.

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                            • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                              @JimmyB
                              @fabio wrote that they’re suspended on mas.to so maybe that’s why you saw it as suspended? If they were suspended and then reinstated on their home server that’s almost even worse than not being suspended at all.

                              JimmyB (he/him)J This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @aral

                              I agree Aral: the idea that someone suspended the account, then took a look at the content and said - Oh, actually that's fine - is horrible. Hopefully not the case.

                              @fabio

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                              • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                                @JimmyB
                                @fabio wrote that they’re suspended on mas.to so maybe that’s why you saw it as suspended? If they were suspended and then reinstated on their home server that’s almost even worse than not being suspended at all.

                                JimmyB (he/him)J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @aral

                                I'm not blocked by that account any more either. Weird!

                                @fabio

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                                • cepharumC cepharum

                                  @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Our guidelines are not beyond German law, but in line with it as the German law is anything but alike the law of Nazi Germany as you try to imply.

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                                  @cepharum @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles There is a difference between what is written and how a state behaves. You claim the laws are 'anything but alike,' yet Germany’s current role as a major arms supplier to a genocide shows that in practice, the state's (and your, for that matter) legal and ethical bar for protecting humanity hasn't shifted as much as you'd like to believe.

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                                  • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                                    @JimmyB
                                    @fabio wrote that they’re suspended on mas.to so maybe that’s why you saw it as suspended? If they were suspended and then reinstated on their home server that’s almost even worse than not being suspended at all.

                                    JimmyB (he/him)J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @fabio @aral turns out - yup suspended and reinstated. That’s nice….

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                                    • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                                      @fabio @aral turns out - yup suspended and reinstated. That’s nice….

                                      Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @JimmyB @fabio I guess they see nothing wrong with hosting an anonymous antisemitic account harassing people who oppose Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by posting antisemitic replies and then blocking the person they are replying to.

                                      Probably time to issue a #fediblock for berlin.social for antisemitism.

                                      (These Zionist hasbara accounts are founded on the antisemitic conflation that all Jews are Zionists and thus all Jews support Israel and its ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. You can even see the antisemitic symbolism in the person’s username: hydra.)

                                      #fediblock #berlinSocial #antisemitism #antizionism

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                                      • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                                        @aral

                                        I'm not blocked by that account any more either. Weird!

                                        @fabio

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                                        Aral Balkan
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                                        @JimmyB @fabio This is likely their modus operandi:

                                        1. Reply to post
                                        2. Block the person so they can’t reply
                                        3. After some time, unblock the person so they can follow their posts again to continue the harassment

                                        Rinse, repeat.

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                                        • cepharumC cepharum

                                          @LukefromDC @fabio @aral We are closely monitoring the account and moderating its posts based on German law as we are required to do. This does not exclude an eventual blocking of the account, but we are not there, yet.

                                          Bilal Barakat 🍉B This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @aral

                                          Do you base your decisions on •actual• German law (which criminalizes public support for war crimes, and gives international law constitutional status), or vibes-based German "law", i.e., what the current "law enforcement" chooses to ignore or illegitimately overenforce? We can produce countless examples of German authorities ignoring its own laws in this matter, or actively breaking them.

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