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  • cepharumC cepharum

    @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Our guidelines are not beyond German law, but in line with it as the German law is anything but alike the law of Nazi Germany as you try to imply.

    Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Not implying anything. Just saying that “legal” is a very low bar for the fediverse.

    And Germany is the second largest arms dealer to Israel and thus complicit in Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. So apologies if I don’t have too much trust in it protecting the interests of genocide victims today.

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    • cepharumC cepharum

      @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Our guidelines are not beyond German law, but in line with it as the German law is anything but alike the law of Nazi Germany as you try to imply.

      sudonymouseS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #34

      @cepharum @aral's point is that German law is not sufficient in this particular case. Your pseudo-neutrality on this matter amounts to conformism to the power structures in place.

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      • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

        @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Not implying anything. Just saying that “legal” is a very low bar for the fediverse.

        And Germany is the second largest arms dealer to Israel and thus complicit in Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. So apologies if I don’t have too much trust in it protecting the interests of genocide victims today.

        Hippo 🍉B This user is from outside of this forum
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        @aral I hope I'm wrong, but given the overeager laws (or interpretations thereof) in Germany, I wonder if Fediverse instances banning trolls or spammers who claim to be Jews run the risk of being labelled "antisemitic"?

        @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles

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        • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

          @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Not implying anything. Just saying that “legal” is a very low bar for the fediverse.

          And Germany is the second largest arms dealer to Israel and thus complicit in Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. So apologies if I don’t have too much trust in it protecting the interests of genocide victims today.

          SchroedingerS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #36

          @aral @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Agreed - an instance that is not going beyond "Is it legal" is not really doing their job.

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          • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

            @JimmyB
            @fabio wrote that they’re suspended on mas.to so maybe that’s why you saw it as suspended? If they were suspended and then reinstated on their home server that’s almost even worse than not being suspended at all.

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            #37

            @aral

            I agree Aral: the idea that someone suspended the account, then took a look at the content and said - Oh, actually that's fine - is horrible. Hopefully not the case.

            @fabio

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            • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

              @JimmyB
              @fabio wrote that they’re suspended on mas.to so maybe that’s why you saw it as suspended? If they were suspended and then reinstated on their home server that’s almost even worse than not being suspended at all.

              JimmyB (he/him)J This user is from outside of this forum
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              JimmyB (he/him)
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              #38

              @aral

              I'm not blocked by that account any more either. Weird!

              @fabio

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              • cepharumC cepharum

                @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Our guidelines are not beyond German law, but in line with it as the German law is anything but alike the law of Nazi Germany as you try to imply.

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                #39

                @cepharum @aral @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles There is a difference between what is written and how a state behaves. You claim the laws are 'anything but alike,' yet Germany’s current role as a major arms supplier to a genocide shows that in practice, the state's (and your, for that matter) legal and ethical bar for protecting humanity hasn't shifted as much as you'd like to believe.

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                • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                  @JimmyB
                  @fabio wrote that they’re suspended on mas.to so maybe that’s why you saw it as suspended? If they were suspended and then reinstated on their home server that’s almost even worse than not being suspended at all.

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                  @fabio @aral turns out - yup suspended and reinstated. That’s nice….

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                  • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                    @fabio @aral turns out - yup suspended and reinstated. That’s nice….

                    Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #41

                    @JimmyB @fabio I guess they see nothing wrong with hosting an anonymous antisemitic account harassing people who oppose Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by posting antisemitic replies and then blocking the person they are replying to.

                    Probably time to issue a #fediblock for berlin.social for antisemitism.

                    (These Zionist hasbara accounts are founded on the antisemitic conflation that all Jews are Zionists and thus all Jews support Israel and its ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. You can even see the antisemitic symbolism in the person’s username: hydra.)

                    #fediblock #berlinSocial #antisemitism #antizionism

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                    • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                      @aral

                      I'm not blocked by that account any more either. Weird!

                      @fabio

                      Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #42

                      @JimmyB @fabio This is likely their modus operandi:

                      1. Reply to post
                      2. Block the person so they can’t reply
                      3. After some time, unblock the person so they can follow their posts again to continue the harassment

                      Rinse, repeat.

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                      • cepharumC cepharum

                        @LukefromDC @fabio @aral We are closely monitoring the account and moderating its posts based on German law as we are required to do. This does not exclude an eventual blocking of the account, but we are not there, yet.

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                        @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @aral

                        Do you base your decisions on •actual• German law (which criminalizes public support for war crimes, and gives international law constitutional status), or vibes-based German "law", i.e., what the current "law enforcement" chooses to ignore or illegitimately overenforce? We can produce countless examples of German authorities ignoring its own laws in this matter, or actively breaking them.

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                        • SchroedingerS Schroedinger

                          @aral @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles Agreed - an instance that is not going beyond "Is it legal" is not really doing their job.

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                          @SteveClough

                          It's also clear that they are only interested in some laws, not others... this is genocide we are talking about...

                          @aral @cepharum @LukefromDC @fabio @haubles

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                          • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                            @JimmyB @fabio I guess they see nothing wrong with hosting an anonymous antisemitic account harassing people who oppose Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by posting antisemitic replies and then blocking the person they are replying to.

                            Probably time to issue a #fediblock for berlin.social for antisemitism.

                            (These Zionist hasbara accounts are founded on the antisemitic conflation that all Jews are Zionists and thus all Jews support Israel and its ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. You can even see the antisemitic symbolism in the person’s username: hydra.)

                            #fediblock #berlinSocial #antisemitism #antizionism

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                            @aral @JimmyB @fabio There are people who mention my account and recommend banning me, saying I'm annoying simply because I'm conveying our voice, our suffering, and our extermination. Thank you to everyone who supports us. 🥺🇵🇸❤️🫶🏻

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                            • Isra'a 🟢🔴🇵🇸I Isra'a 🟢🔴🇵🇸

                              @aral @JimmyB @fabio There are people who mention my account and recommend banning me, saying I'm annoying simply because I'm conveying our voice, our suffering, and our extermination. Thank you to everyone who supports us. 🥺🇵🇸❤️🫶🏻

                              Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @israajamal @JimmyB @fabio Hi Israa, I don’t see you tagging people in your posts so they have no reason to report you beyond bigotry and hate. We will defend your account if any unfair action is taken against it.

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                              • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                                @JimmyB @fabio I guess they see nothing wrong with hosting an anonymous antisemitic account harassing people who oppose Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by posting antisemitic replies and then blocking the person they are replying to.

                                Probably time to issue a #fediblock for berlin.social for antisemitism.

                                (These Zionist hasbara accounts are founded on the antisemitic conflation that all Jews are Zionists and thus all Jews support Israel and its ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. You can even see the antisemitic symbolism in the person’s username: hydra.)

                                #fediblock #berlinSocial #antisemitism #antizionism

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                                Outpatientzero 🍉 🇺🇦
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                                @aral @JimmyB @fabio I'd love it if someone could explain this #fediblock business, how does it work? And how do we in our own accounts block whole instances?

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                                • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                                  @israajamal @JimmyB @fabio Hi Israa, I don’t see you tagging people in your posts so they have no reason to report you beyond bigotry and hate. We will defend your account if any unfair action is taken against it.

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                                  @aral @JimmyB @fabio Thank you very much 🌿👍

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                                  • O Outpatientzero 🍉 🇺🇦

                                    @aral @JimmyB @fabio I'd love it if someone could explain this #fediblock business, how does it work? And how do we in our own accounts block whole instances?

                                    Fabio ManganielloF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Outpatientzero@mstdn.social @aral@mastodon.ar.al @JimmyB@mas.to that's a special hashtag followed by instance admins to know which instances or accounts are problematic. There are also automates tools that follow that hashtag and regularly aggregate reports.

                                    Or at least that's the idea - there's also been so much noise on that hashtag and so many cases of abuse that many admins are ignoring it nowadays.

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