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  3. It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

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  • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

    It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

    Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

    Alex HyettA This user is from outside of this forum
    Alex HyettA This user is from outside of this forum
    Alex Hyett
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    #3

    @neil that would be perfect. An β€œonly allow replies from people you follow” option would help so much.

    Maria Langer | πŸ“πŸ’ŽπŸŒ΅πŸ›₯️M 1 Reply Last reply
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    • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

      It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

      Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

      RetR This user is from outside of this forum
      RetR This user is from outside of this forum
      Ret
      wrote last edited by
      #4

      @neil I’d really like that feature too. Reply guys be damned, some things are just… better without two way comms.

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      • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

        Every time I mention this, at least one man pops up to say that they would not want to follow a woman who chooses to restrict replies.

        So here, I have covered it in advance πŸ™‚

        samiamsamS This user is from outside of this forum
        samiamsamS This user is from outside of this forum
        samiamsam
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        #5

        @neil

        a problem that solves itself LOL

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        • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

          It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

          Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

          Tony HoyleT This user is from outside of this forum
          Tony HoyleT This user is from outside of this forum
          Tony Hoyle
          wrote last edited by
          #6

          @neil
          I believe there is a plan to add something like followers only, but one problem is that servers that are not upgraded to a version that supports that flag wouldn't honour it.

          Not that it's a reason not to do it, but it'll take a while before it's effective.

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          • Tony HoyleT Tony Hoyle

            @neil
            I believe there is a plan to add something like followers only, but one problem is that servers that are not upgraded to a version that supports that flag wouldn't honour it.

            Not that it's a reason not to do it, but it'll take a while before it's effective.

            Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
            Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
            Neil Brown
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            #7

            @tony Yes, indeed.

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            • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

              It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

              Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

              PaulP This user is from outside of this forum
              PaulP This user is from outside of this forum
              Paul
              wrote last edited by
              #8

              @neil I would like it as well, not so much for restricting replies to my toots but being able to see 'ah this person only wants replies from mutuals' and therefore not sending a reply which at best won't be read and at worst will annoy.

              (I have come across accounts who want to restrict replies and there is no way to advertise this)

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              • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                @tony Yes, indeed.

                Tony HoyleT This user is from outside of this forum
                Tony HoyleT This user is from outside of this forum
                Tony Hoyle
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                #9

                @neil
                https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-5624-per-object-reply-control-policies/2723

                Bit technical, but it seems good people are on it.

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                • Tony HoyleT Tony Hoyle

                  @neil
                  I believe there is a plan to add something like followers only, but one problem is that servers that are not upgraded to a version that supports that flag wouldn't honour it.

                  Not that it's a reason not to do it, but it'll take a while before it's effective.

                  DaltuxD This user is from outside of this forum
                  DaltuxD This user is from outside of this forum
                  Daltux
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                  #10
                  I guess it could be another fine #Snac feature, as you already can click a button to hide any post and all its present and future replies, so I believe it would not be hard to implement something like that in advance when you are posting a new activity. Then at least you could choose not to see replies... πŸ€”

                  CC: @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
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                  • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                    It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                    Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                    Sebastian CraneS This user is from outside of this forum
                    Sebastian CraneS This user is from outside of this forum
                    Sebastian Crane
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                    #11

                    @neil I don't really understand why the 'quotes' feature in Mastodon already has something like this, but basic replies don't. Seems like a missed opportunity.

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                    • Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                      Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                      Neil Brown
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                      #12

                      @joriki That is visibility, not reply control.

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                      • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                        Every time I mention this, at least one man pops up to say that they would not want to follow a woman who chooses to restrict replies.

                        So here, I have covered it in advance πŸ™‚

                        CassandrichD This user is from outside of this forum
                        CassandrichD This user is from outside of this forum
                        Cassandrich
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                        #13

                        @neil Don't threaten us with a good time. πŸ˜‚

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                        • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                          It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                          Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                          Ev DelenE This user is from outside of this forum
                          Ev DelenE This user is from outside of this forum
                          Ev Delen
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                          #14

                          @neil

                          I just wanted to draw your attention to some some ways to manage the visibility of a post. Could your outline additional controls which could be established?

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                          • Ev DelenE Ev Delen

                            @neil

                            I just wanted to draw your attention to some some ways to manage the visibility of a post. Could your outline additional controls which could be established?

                            Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                            Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                            Neil Brown
                            wrote last edited by
                            #15

                            @evdelen As you say, that is post visibility, not reply control.

                            Maria Langer | πŸ“πŸ’ŽπŸŒ΅πŸ›₯️M 1 Reply Last reply
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                            • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                              It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                              Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                              Edelruth, PBS Passport HolderE This user is from outside of this forum
                              Edelruth, PBS Passport HolderE This user is from outside of this forum
                              Edelruth, PBS Passport Holder
                              wrote last edited by
                              #16

                              @neil

                              There is a word filter system, which is probably not the level of control you are proposing, but it is a real-time start.

                              I have the classic insults blocked, but, for cause, sadly.

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                              • Tony HoyleT Tony Hoyle

                                @neil
                                https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-5624-per-object-reply-control-policies/2723

                                Bit technical, but it seems good people are on it.

                                Scott FeeneyG This user is from outside of this forum
                                Scott FeeneyG This user is from outside of this forum
                                Scott Feeney
                                wrote last edited by
                                #17

                                @tony @neil At the end of the thread, someone mentions it got stalled for years. There's no prioritization by the Mastodon project. Another ActivityPub project, GoToSocial, went ahead and implemented it, although client support for the option is spotty.

                                Mastodon could at least make it so blocking someone hides their reply, when viewed on your own server; that fix was already written back in 2022, and they refuse to explain why they aren't shipping it. https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/18468

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                                • Edelruth, PBS Passport HolderE Edelruth, PBS Passport Holder

                                  @neil

                                  There is a word filter system, which is probably not the level of control you are proposing, but it is a real-time start.

                                  I have the classic insults blocked, but, for cause, sadly.

                                  Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Neil Brown
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @Edelruth Yes, I filter *a lot*.

                                  As you say, a useful, tangential, measure.

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                                  • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                                    It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                                    Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                                    Todd KnarrT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Todd KnarrT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Todd Knarr
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                                    #19

                                    @neil In account settings there's a followers-only option for reply privacy. That's probably what you want.

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                                    • Todd KnarrT Todd Knarr

                                      @neil In account settings there's a followers-only option for reply privacy. That's probably what you want.

                                      Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Neil Brown
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #20

                                      @tknarr

                                      Hmm... What setting are you thinking of here, as it doesn't ring a bell?

                                      It doesn't solve the problem completely, but being able to restrict replies to people I follow would be a great start.

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                                      • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                                        @tknarr

                                        Hmm... What setting are you thinking of here, as it doesn't ring a bell?

                                        It doesn't solve the problem completely, but being able to restrict replies to people I follow would be a great start.

                                        Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Neil Brown
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #21

                                        @tknarr

                                        Ah, reply privacy, being the visibility level attached to a reply I make.

                                        No, that is something completely different to controlling what replies I allow to my toots.

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                                        • Tony HoyleT Tony Hoyle

                                          @neil
                                          I believe there is a plan to add something like followers only, but one problem is that servers that are not upgraded to a version that supports that flag wouldn't honour it.

                                          Not that it's a reason not to do it, but it'll take a while before it's effective.

                                          LeelooL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          LeelooL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Leeloo
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                                          #22

                                          @tony @neil
                                          That problem exists for the whole protocol, though. A server can equally well ignore "mentioned only" and show the post on their "local" feed if it wants to.

                                          Thus the problem doesn't prevent implementing the feature any more than it prevents the whole fediverse.

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