This is one of the worst takes from LLM enthusiasts.

[object Object]

@arroz it’s always a bit depressing when I find out about a new pocket of mediocre tech jackasses posting twitter crap on masto. all of the guys posting “LLMs are like compilers for natural language” should have their CS degrees yanked cause they’ve proven they don’t meet the academic requirements for a CS undergrad.

David Gerard

@arroz it's like watching bitcoiners talk about how they think money works

[object Object]

@arroz “LLMs are natural language compilers”, brought to you by the same kids insisting their product is “the operating system for the web” because nothing means anything if you ignore all implementation and engineering details

Amber :neodog_box:

@zzt@mas.to @arroz@mastodon.social Ah because if it's one thing compilers are known for it's being non-deterministic

George B

@arroz @dmitriid @zeank

Have you seen https://www.colincornaby.me/2025/08/in-the-future-all-food-will-be-cooked-in-a-microwave-and-if-you-cant-deal-with-that-then-you-need-to-get-out-of-the-kitchen/

Cap E Bara

@arroz @stroughtonsmith that take you reposted is hella embarassing. thanks for pointing out another slop enthusiast to mute!

Duke of Germany 💫

What I see a lot in these AI guy circles is this kind of "magical thinking" about how things work.

And these (confidently expressed) naive takes are not only about LLMs, but also about countless other well-documented, well-researched topics like compilers.

Who are these guys?

@arroz

Lobster

@arroz To be honest, the whole take of the original post reads like slop. LLMs tend to conflate different concepts with each other and if you have no idea what you’re talking about, it will sound very convincing.

Jim Jones

@GeoffWozniak @arroz

Looks like CWE's are back on the menu!

https://blog.vidocsecurity.com/blog/vibe-coding-security-vulnerabilities

Orb 2069

@zzt @arroz

Imagine if CS was like ANY other engineering discipline.

Preston Maness ☭

@Orb2069 @zzt @arroz I find that exercise preferable to imagining other engineering disciplines becoming more like CS.

Orb 2069

@aspensmonster @zzt @arroz

Vibe coded skyscrapers.

Joel VanderWerf

@arroz How does he think source-level debuggers will work under that analogy?

mwolak

@arroz I know who *will* be manually reviewing the generated code: the people in the black hats.

Anthony

@zzt@mas.to @arroz@mastodon.social https://buc.ci/abucci/p/1769891986.847341

Leszek

@Orb2069 @aspensmonster @zzt @arroz There was a preview of that. Search the history of highrises in UK, especially the ones built in the 1960s and 1970s.
You can save so much on tall buildings by not building 2 stories of cellars those silly continental architects added to the design. Or you can just copy paste a building on top of itself to double the number of livable floors from 6 to 12, right?

Darby Lines

@zzt @arroz The sheer volume of developers that I have lost respect for in the last two years is just staggering.

Sharp Cheddar Goblin

@angry_drunk @zzt @arroz I despise all of my coworkers and the company I work for. I'm just going to retire early when I'm finally let go due to slopcoding and then work on limiting my life's contact with software, since it's all going to be buggy and insecure garbage. I guess I'll be a hermit and write a manifesto.

Very Human Robot

@arroz

The trick is to get the LLM to generate a spec and an acceptance test for the change you want to make, and verify the test.

zygmyd

@angry_drunk @zzt @arroz

And executives. Seeing who are the bandwagon jumpers and who are being thoughtful about things.