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  • Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
    Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Dear (neo)liberals,

    I’m not here to make you feel better about yourselves and gloss over your hypocrisies that are at the heart of the mess that we find ourselves in. I’m not here to pat you on the back when you write a strongly-worded letter to a fascist asking him to please limit his persecution to the Other. I’m here to remind you that your willingness to perpetuate an unjust system as long as it benefits you personally IS the reason the problem exists in the first place.

    #neoliberalism #fascism

    Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸D Michael FischerM AndrewS 3 Replies Last reply
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    • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

      Dear (neo)liberals,

      I’m not here to make you feel better about yourselves and gloss over your hypocrisies that are at the heart of the mess that we find ourselves in. I’m not here to pat you on the back when you write a strongly-worded letter to a fascist asking him to please limit his persecution to the Other. I’m here to remind you that your willingness to perpetuate an unjust system as long as it benefits you personally IS the reason the problem exists in the first place.

      #neoliberalism #fascism

      Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸D This user is from outside of this forum
      Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸D This user is from outside of this forum
      Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸
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      @aral 💯🔥🔥🔥

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      • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

        Dear (neo)liberals,

        I’m not here to make you feel better about yourselves and gloss over your hypocrisies that are at the heart of the mess that we find ourselves in. I’m not here to pat you on the back when you write a strongly-worded letter to a fascist asking him to please limit his persecution to the Other. I’m here to remind you that your willingness to perpetuate an unjust system as long as it benefits you personally IS the reason the problem exists in the first place.

        #neoliberalism #fascism

        Michael FischerM This user is from outside of this forum
        Michael FischerM This user is from outside of this forum
        Michael Fischer
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        @aral absolutely agreed! Exactly!

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        • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

          Dear (neo)liberals,

          I’m not here to make you feel better about yourselves and gloss over your hypocrisies that are at the heart of the mess that we find ourselves in. I’m not here to pat you on the back when you write a strongly-worded letter to a fascist asking him to please limit his persecution to the Other. I’m here to remind you that your willingness to perpetuate an unjust system as long as it benefits you personally IS the reason the problem exists in the first place.

          #neoliberalism #fascism

          AndrewS This user is from outside of this forum
          AndrewS This user is from outside of this forum
          Andrew
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          @aral

          I'm seeing some people on here who are very angry at all the Americans who didn't vote for Kamala, be it by abstaining from voting or voting for a different candidate. These people honestly don't have the slightest inkling that their own "I'm alright Jack" attitude is a core part of why we're in this mess.

          I hope these individuals gain some insight, especially re the need for systemic change and how the Dems and MAGA are simply two sides of the same coin.

          Everyone who isn't signed up to unchecked fascism needs to be pulling in the same direction, preferably in the direction of a general strike.

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            @aral

            I'm seeing some people on here who are very angry at all the Americans who didn't vote for Kamala, be it by abstaining from voting or voting for a different candidate. These people honestly don't have the slightest inkling that their own "I'm alright Jack" attitude is a core part of why we're in this mess.

            I hope these individuals gain some insight, especially re the need for systemic change and how the Dems and MAGA are simply two sides of the same coin.

            Everyone who isn't signed up to unchecked fascism needs to be pulling in the same direction, preferably in the direction of a general strike.

            Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
            Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Shivviness But… wouldn’t that be… terribly inconvenient? I really don’t think you’re thinking of the shareholders here, Andrew.

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              @aral

              I'm seeing some people on here who are very angry at all the Americans who didn't vote for Kamala, be it by abstaining from voting or voting for a different candidate. These people honestly don't have the slightest inkling that their own "I'm alright Jack" attitude is a core part of why we're in this mess.

              I hope these individuals gain some insight, especially re the need for systemic change and how the Dems and MAGA are simply two sides of the same coin.

              Everyone who isn't signed up to unchecked fascism needs to be pulling in the same direction, preferably in the direction of a general strike.

              CartyBostonC This user is from outside of this forum
              CartyBostonC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Shivviness @aral That "two sides of the same coin" bullshit, coined by Ralph Nader, has been ushering in Republicans for two generations now.

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                @Shivviness @aral That "two sides of the same coin" bullshit, coined by Ralph Nader, has been ushering in Republicans for two generations now.

                AndrewS This user is from outside of this forum
                AndrewS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @CartyBoston @aral

                Republicans and Democrats serve the same oligarchic and corporate masters, and have done for a long time. Their masters' goals are therefore these parties' goals.

                Dems have seemed perfectly happy playing their part in our well orchestrated slide into fascism, from what I can ascertain.

                It saddens me that so many Americans still can't understand that they've been played by capitalists, who will always side with fascist interests.

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                  @aral

                  I'm seeing some people on here who are very angry at all the Americans who didn't vote for Kamala, be it by abstaining from voting or voting for a different candidate. These people honestly don't have the slightest inkling that their own "I'm alright Jack" attitude is a core part of why we're in this mess.

                  I hope these individuals gain some insight, especially re the need for systemic change and how the Dems and MAGA are simply two sides of the same coin.

                  Everyone who isn't signed up to unchecked fascism needs to be pulling in the same direction, preferably in the direction of a general strike.

                  David CulleyD This user is from outside of this forum
                  David CulleyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Shivviness @aral In Germany, it's lawful to strike only if an union called for a strike.

                  If you strike without a union first having called for a strike, you will get fired from your job and there won't be anything you can do about it. You might even have to pay your employer for damages caused by you not working.

                  Even if a union calls for a strike, your salary will be cut. Your employer won't pay you for your time on strike.

                  So there's a few things to know before striking. Many Germans don't know them and are thus insecure/timid/submissive.

                  Even if they know all that, they're not ready/willing to make the sacrifices. Even though the German welfare state would pay them 60% of their previous salary while they're unemployed.

                  There are occassionally specific strikes in Germany, like all trains standing still (because such strikes are backed by a union).

                  But a general strike will never happen in Germany. Or anything else that could stop Germany's export of weapons to Israel.

                  Even more so because the Germans are a people that likes to bitch and whine about their own personal inconveniences. Suffering even a mild personal inconvenience as the price for showing solidarity with a just cause is not something the majority of Germans will do. Like your commute taking 5 minutes longer because some climate protestors blocked a road and you had to take a different road. That is something a German would still bitch and whine about even three months later. That's why the far right has it so easy in Germany, inciting against "radical leftists". Because Germans hate leftists and protests already, they don't need right-wing propaganda to become mad at them.

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                    @Shivviness @aral In Germany, it's lawful to strike only if an union called for a strike.

                    If you strike without a union first having called for a strike, you will get fired from your job and there won't be anything you can do about it. You might even have to pay your employer for damages caused by you not working.

                    Even if a union calls for a strike, your salary will be cut. Your employer won't pay you for your time on strike.

                    So there's a few things to know before striking. Many Germans don't know them and are thus insecure/timid/submissive.

                    Even if they know all that, they're not ready/willing to make the sacrifices. Even though the German welfare state would pay them 60% of their previous salary while they're unemployed.

                    There are occassionally specific strikes in Germany, like all trains standing still (because such strikes are backed by a union).

                    But a general strike will never happen in Germany. Or anything else that could stop Germany's export of weapons to Israel.

                    Even more so because the Germans are a people that likes to bitch and whine about their own personal inconveniences. Suffering even a mild personal inconvenience as the price for showing solidarity with a just cause is not something the majority of Germans will do. Like your commute taking 5 minutes longer because some climate protestors blocked a road and you had to take a different road. That is something a German would still bitch and whine about even three months later. That's why the far right has it so easy in Germany, inciting against "radical leftists". Because Germans hate leftists and protests already, they don't need right-wing propaganda to become mad at them.

                    AndrewS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @davidculley @aral

                    There's this quote, which often is misattributed to Werner Herzog, that goes, "Dear America: You are waking up as Germany once did, to the awareness that 1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches", and I think that could apply to any Western country at this point, albeit with a few outliers like the Scandinavians.

                    Your point about people being generally selfish and parochial minded applies equally to the UK, alas.

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