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  3. I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us.

I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us.

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  • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

    All of this reminds me of walking by the Seine with my wife, who grew up in Paris.

    ‘I bet all these American wine mom types on vacation are going say this is very romantic’

    (1 min later)

    ‘Oh gosh, this is so romantic!!’

    (Every five minutes later)

    ‘Oh wow, this is so romantic!!’

    My wife, like any other Parisian: ‘the river is full of human and other feces’

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    Adrianna Tan
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    So many people here are like, oh I wish I could move to (another country, that is also having a hard far right turn, and anti-immigrant horrors, just in a language they don’t speak)

    It’s totally fine to feel you need to get away for safety and yes white cis Americans will likely face less of a threat in many places

    However

    I’m so irritated by the pretense that all of the current problems in the world are limited to US borders. We are going through a rough time of it.. but a lot of these problems are structurally global. ‘America is the worst’ is also a form of American exceptionalism.

    Ashe Dryden 🙆🏼‍♀️🐈🐈‍⬛A Lighthouse DannL Jess👾J 3 Replies Last reply
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    • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

      I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

      Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

      Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

      I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

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      @skinnylatte also this assumes the other country wants Americans lol

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      • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

        So many people here are like, oh I wish I could move to (another country, that is also having a hard far right turn, and anti-immigrant horrors, just in a language they don’t speak)

        It’s totally fine to feel you need to get away for safety and yes white cis Americans will likely face less of a threat in many places

        However

        I’m so irritated by the pretense that all of the current problems in the world are limited to US borders. We are going through a rough time of it.. but a lot of these problems are structurally global. ‘America is the worst’ is also a form of American exceptionalism.

        Ashe Dryden 🙆🏼‍♀️🐈🐈‍⬛A This user is from outside of this forum
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        Ashe Dryden 🙆🏼‍♀️🐈🐈‍⬛
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        @skinnylatte also the idea that American policies don’t impact literally every other country

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        • CarolynC Carolyn

          @skinnylatte Even more importantly, other countries don't need to take on the US crap.

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          @CStamp @skinnylatte

          European countries would never do that. The idea from some US leftists that they would invade the country that has the strongest armed forces, in order to save the USA from problems created by the USA, is so absurd. I wonder how they even came up with that?

          Maybe they just love stories that go like "World War II, but the other way round, this time Germany will have to save us!"
          But that's just speculation, I don't know where that weird idea even comes from...

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          • Gabriel NW Gabriel N

            @skinnylatte @CStamp I’d like to think they managed to keep it that way because it is more romantic.

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            @wtrmt @skinnylatte Yikes. 🙂

            I walked along there once, but it was winter months, so likely meant it smelled better? It was definitely a beautiful area to walk. 🙂

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            • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

              All of this reminds me of walking by the Seine with my wife, who grew up in Paris.

              ‘I bet all these American wine mom types on vacation are going say this is very romantic’

              (1 min later)

              ‘Oh gosh, this is so romantic!!’

              (Every five minutes later)

              ‘Oh wow, this is so romantic!!’

              My wife, like any other Parisian: ‘the river is full of human and other feces’

              James FairbairnJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @skinnylatte poop is romantic. How else can we explain Love in the Time of Cholera?

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              • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

                Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

                Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

                I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

                transgengarL This user is from outside of this forum
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                @skinnylatte Like yes, as a citizen of the so-called EU there's a far right takeover, racism, xenophobia and horrifying border control here too. Truly a "their barbaric nationalism and our noble patriotism" meme bullshit.

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                • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                  I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

                  Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

                  Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

                  I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

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                  Liminal witch 🧙‍♀️ Sarah
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                  @skinnylatte I’m looking at my Czech passport, remembering teasing with my Slovak colleagues about politics.

                  Who has more of our shit together? There’s this small miracle called EU which helps keep somewhat centrist approach. But it’s not as tough as people think.

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                  • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                    I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

                    Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

                    Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

                    I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

                    nerd teacher 🦇W This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @skinnylatte It's kind of wild because I'll see people be like "Oh, I wish we were like Australia" (please look up refugee/immigrant detainment facilities in Nauru) or "if only we were more like Europe" (where? but all of them are complicit in some fashion because Frontex, and a good chunk of them are full of overt fascists running the show).

                    And while I understand why it's happening, I also am just baffled by people from the US trying to make refugee cases in places... because most of these places still treat the US as a "safe" place (even when their politicians are saying it's not; the whole "the US is no longer safe" shit coming from a Euro politician is to score political points and obfuscate their own culpability and nothing else).

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                    • Mab_813M Mab_813

                      @CStamp @skinnylatte

                      European countries would never do that. The idea from some US leftists that they would invade the country that has the strongest armed forces, in order to save the USA from problems created by the USA, is so absurd. I wonder how they even came up with that?

                      Maybe they just love stories that go like "World War II, but the other way round, this time Germany will have to save us!"
                      But that's just speculation, I don't know where that weird idea even comes from...

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                      @Mab_813 @skinnylatte There are a lot of jokes about Canada getting new provinces. I'm not sure that would work out with the current US gun culture, though, I guess blue states do want sensible gun laws...

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                      • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                        I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

                        Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

                        Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

                        I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

                        Wild Eyed Boy From FreecloudW This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @skinnylatte I hear ya, but healthcare is pretty attractive...

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                        • Wild Eyed Boy From FreecloudW Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud

                          @skinnylatte I hear ya, but healthcare is pretty attractive...

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                          @WildEyedBoyFromFreecloud they’re mostly all moving to to exclude healthcare from immigrants

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                          • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                            @WildEyedBoyFromFreecloud they’re mostly all moving to to exclude healthcare from immigrants

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                            @skinnylatte Grrr.

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                            • CarolynC Carolyn

                              @wtrmt @skinnylatte Yikes. 🙂

                              I walked along there once, but it was winter months, so likely meant it smelled better? It was definitely a beautiful area to walk. 🙂

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                              @CStamp @wtrmt @skinnylatte It is. When it's warmer there are also pop-up bars along the river. It's nice but most rivers in big cities aren't very suitable for swimming.

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                              • Wild Eyed Boy From FreecloudW Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud

                                @skinnylatte Grrr.

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                                @WildEyedBoyFromFreecloud most middle class UK citizens don’t even qualify to sponsor their foreign spouses to live there permanently. They’re not going to be any better to any other immigrant other than the ones who invest millions of dollars. This is happening across the world (limiting legal immigration, being inhumane to refugees and asylum seekers, and only opening doors for highly skilled and rich people)

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                                • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                  So many people here are like, oh I wish I could move to (another country, that is also having a hard far right turn, and anti-immigrant horrors, just in a language they don’t speak)

                                  It’s totally fine to feel you need to get away for safety and yes white cis Americans will likely face less of a threat in many places

                                  However

                                  I’m so irritated by the pretense that all of the current problems in the world are limited to US borders. We are going through a rough time of it.. but a lot of these problems are structurally global. ‘America is the worst’ is also a form of American exceptionalism.

                                  Lighthouse DannL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @skinnylatte Trump is turning the States into another Israel. Netanyahu has trained him well. Worst part is that no one is stopping him or his whole corrupt administration!

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                                  • FlauschtextF Flauschtext

                                    @CStamp @wtrmt @skinnylatte It is. When it's warmer there are also pop-up bars along the river. It's nice but most rivers in big cities aren't very suitable for swimming.

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                                    @flauschtext @wtrmt @skinnylatte Sadly, that is a choice. Cleaning up rivers has a lot of benefits.

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                                    • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                      All of this reminds me of walking by the Seine with my wife, who grew up in Paris.

                                      ‘I bet all these American wine mom types on vacation are going say this is very romantic’

                                      (1 min later)

                                      ‘Oh gosh, this is so romantic!!’

                                      (Every five minutes later)

                                      ‘Oh wow, this is so romantic!!’

                                      My wife, like any other Parisian: ‘the river is full of human and other feces’

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                                      @skinnylatte Both true!

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                                      • Wild Eyed Boy From FreecloudW Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud

                                        @skinnylatte I hear ya, but healthcare is pretty attractive...

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                                        @WildEyedBoyFromFreecloud @skinnylatte

                                        You're assuming that if someone successfully invades your country, they will then give you access to the same healthcare system the citizens from back home have?

                                        instead of "Well you lost the war, you actually have zero influence now and we will now do whatever we want"

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                                        • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                          I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

                                          Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

                                          Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

                                          I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

                                          Wendizen 🇺🇦W This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @skinnylatte Lived in the UK, came back to the USA. We’re actively working on our exit back (to London). It’s not great, but still, much better. There’s work, there’s healthcare, there’s Europe… I should edit this to add, we have family connex in Czech Republic, and options for retiring in (undisclosed area) France, huddling with other disgruntled “expat” (immigrant) USians & Euros.

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