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  3. I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us.

I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us.

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  • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

    I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

    Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

    Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

    I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

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    @skinnylatte I’m looking at my Czech passport, remembering teasing with my Slovak colleagues about politics.

    Who has more of our shit together? There’s this small miracle called EU which helps keep somewhat centrist approach. But it’s not as tough as people think.

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    • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

      I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

      Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

      Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

      I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

      nerd teacher 🦇W This user is from outside of this forum
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      @skinnylatte It's kind of wild because I'll see people be like "Oh, I wish we were like Australia" (please look up refugee/immigrant detainment facilities in Nauru) or "if only we were more like Europe" (where? but all of them are complicit in some fashion because Frontex, and a good chunk of them are full of overt fascists running the show).

      And while I understand why it's happening, I also am just baffled by people from the US trying to make refugee cases in places... because most of these places still treat the US as a "safe" place (even when their politicians are saying it's not; the whole "the US is no longer safe" shit coming from a Euro politician is to score political points and obfuscate their own culpability and nothing else).

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      • Mab_813M Mab_813

        @CStamp @skinnylatte

        European countries would never do that. The idea from some US leftists that they would invade the country that has the strongest armed forces, in order to save the USA from problems created by the USA, is so absurd. I wonder how they even came up with that?

        Maybe they just love stories that go like "World War II, but the other way round, this time Germany will have to save us!"
        But that's just speculation, I don't know where that weird idea even comes from...

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        @Mab_813 @skinnylatte There are a lot of jokes about Canada getting new provinces. I'm not sure that would work out with the current US gun culture, though, I guess blue states do want sensible gun laws...

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        • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

          I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

          Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

          Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

          I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

          Wild Eyed Boy From FreecloudW This user is from outside of this forum
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          @skinnylatte I hear ya, but healthcare is pretty attractive...

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          • Wild Eyed Boy From FreecloudW Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud

            @skinnylatte I hear ya, but healthcare is pretty attractive...

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            @WildEyedBoyFromFreecloud they’re mostly all moving to to exclude healthcare from immigrants

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            • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

              @WildEyedBoyFromFreecloud they’re mostly all moving to to exclude healthcare from immigrants

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              @skinnylatte Grrr.

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              • CarolynC Carolyn

                @wtrmt @skinnylatte Yikes. 🙂

                I walked along there once, but it was winter months, so likely meant it smelled better? It was definitely a beautiful area to walk. 🙂

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                @CStamp @wtrmt @skinnylatte It is. When it's warmer there are also pop-up bars along the river. It's nice but most rivers in big cities aren't very suitable for swimming.

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                • Wild Eyed Boy From FreecloudW Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud

                  @skinnylatte Grrr.

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                  @WildEyedBoyFromFreecloud most middle class UK citizens don’t even qualify to sponsor their foreign spouses to live there permanently. They’re not going to be any better to any other immigrant other than the ones who invest millions of dollars. This is happening across the world (limiting legal immigration, being inhumane to refugees and asylum seekers, and only opening doors for highly skilled and rich people)

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                  • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                    So many people here are like, oh I wish I could move to (another country, that is also having a hard far right turn, and anti-immigrant horrors, just in a language they don’t speak)

                    It’s totally fine to feel you need to get away for safety and yes white cis Americans will likely face less of a threat in many places

                    However

                    I’m so irritated by the pretense that all of the current problems in the world are limited to US borders. We are going through a rough time of it.. but a lot of these problems are structurally global. ‘America is the worst’ is also a form of American exceptionalism.

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                    @skinnylatte Trump is turning the States into another Israel. Netanyahu has trained him well. Worst part is that no one is stopping him or his whole corrupt administration!

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                    • FlauschtextF Flauschtext

                      @CStamp @wtrmt @skinnylatte It is. When it's warmer there are also pop-up bars along the river. It's nice but most rivers in big cities aren't very suitable for swimming.

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                      @flauschtext @wtrmt @skinnylatte Sadly, that is a choice. Cleaning up rivers has a lot of benefits.

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                      • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                        All of this reminds me of walking by the Seine with my wife, who grew up in Paris.

                        ‘I bet all these American wine mom types on vacation are going say this is very romantic’

                        (1 min later)

                        ‘Oh gosh, this is so romantic!!’

                        (Every five minutes later)

                        ‘Oh wow, this is so romantic!!’

                        My wife, like any other Parisian: ‘the river is full of human and other feces’

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                        @skinnylatte Both true!

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                        • Wild Eyed Boy From FreecloudW Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud

                          @skinnylatte I hear ya, but healthcare is pretty attractive...

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                          @WildEyedBoyFromFreecloud @skinnylatte

                          You're assuming that if someone successfully invades your country, they will then give you access to the same healthcare system the citizens from back home have?

                          instead of "Well you lost the war, you actually have zero influence now and we will now do whatever we want"

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                          • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                            I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

                            Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

                            Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

                            I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

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                            @skinnylatte Lived in the UK, came back to the USA. We’re actively working on our exit back (to London). It’s not great, but still, much better. There’s work, there’s healthcare, there’s Europe… I should edit this to add, we have family connex in Czech Republic, and options for retiring in (undisclosed area) France, huddling with other disgruntled “expat” (immigrant) USians & Euros.

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                            • Mab_813M Mab_813

                              @WildEyedBoyFromFreecloud @skinnylatte

                              You're assuming that if someone successfully invades your country, they will then give you access to the same healthcare system the citizens from back home have?

                              instead of "Well you lost the war, you actually have zero influence now and we will now do whatever we want"

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                              @Mab_813 @skinnylatte Totally fair.

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                              • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

                                Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

                                Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

                                I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

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                                @skinnylatte
                                requesting Abraham Lincoln Brigades would be another story

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                                • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                  All of this reminds me of walking by the Seine with my wife, who grew up in Paris.

                                  ‘I bet all these American wine mom types on vacation are going say this is very romantic’

                                  (1 min later)

                                  ‘Oh gosh, this is so romantic!!’

                                  (Every five minutes later)

                                  ‘Oh wow, this is so romantic!!’

                                  My wife, like any other Parisian: ‘the river is full of human and other feces’

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                                  @skinnylatte we were at Chrissy Field (San Francisco, for people who don't know) for a charity walk, and as we were parking and getting our stuff organized we met a young couple who had recently moved here. They had come from a part of the country that is convinced that San Francisco was some kind of hellscape. Looking around at all the people, with strollers and dogs and frisbees, they asked, "is it like this all the time?" and, of course, we replied, "Yep. Pretty much." smiles all around.

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                                  • nerd teacher 🦇W nerd teacher 🦇

                                    @skinnylatte It's kind of wild because I'll see people be like "Oh, I wish we were like Australia" (please look up refugee/immigrant detainment facilities in Nauru) or "if only we were more like Europe" (where? but all of them are complicit in some fashion because Frontex, and a good chunk of them are full of overt fascists running the show).

                                    And while I understand why it's happening, I also am just baffled by people from the US trying to make refugee cases in places... because most of these places still treat the US as a "safe" place (even when their politicians are saying it's not; the whole "the US is no longer safe" shit coming from a Euro politician is to score political points and obfuscate their own culpability and nothing else).

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                                    @whatanerd @skinnylatte

                                    > Nauru
                                    > Manus Island
                                    > Christmas Island

                                    Are the ones that were always in the news. Off shore processing is what they called it.

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                                    • DariusD Darius

                                      @skinnylatte we were at Chrissy Field (San Francisco, for people who don't know) for a charity walk, and as we were parking and getting our stuff organized we met a young couple who had recently moved here. They had come from a part of the country that is convinced that San Francisco was some kind of hellscape. Looking around at all the people, with strollers and dogs and frisbees, they asked, "is it like this all the time?" and, of course, we replied, "Yep. Pretty much." smiles all around.

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                                      @dariusdunlap haha!

                                      Hey, lmk next time you go there. I’m there regularly on my runs. Would love to get coffee too.

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                                      • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                        I would really like it if white Americans would stop fake begging other settler or colonialist countries to invade us. Yes, they have healthcare, but if you truly believe they have their shit together I have a bridge to sell you.

                                        Do they have more of their shit together? Yes!

                                        Will they treat nonwhite people better? Probably not. POC already have enough nonsense to deal with in this country we don’t need another country’s shit because you think it’ll be fun and sophisticated to be (some other country you like but have never been)

                                        I highly encourage you to google all of these other countries you love so much with the terms ‘immigrants’ and ‘detention camp’ and ‘police violence’. All of you have the same shit. It’s not funny.

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                                        @skinnylatte

                                        The train the US is riding right now leads to one place: Ideological, economic, tech, and military alignment with Russia.

                                        If anyone thinks that eventuality isn't the death knell for free Europe, well....

                                        smh.

                                        The EU has a role in fighting against the rise of fascism. *Especially* in the US. There is no "going it alone". There is only realignment with China--yet another authoritarian regime.

                                        Defeating nascent US fascism is an all-hands-on-deck-moment. Failure is not an option.

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                                        • Adrianna TanS Adrianna Tan

                                          @dariusdunlap haha!

                                          Hey, lmk next time you go there. I’m there regularly on my runs. Would love to get coffee too.

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                                          @skinnylatte Will do! Also, Joell is a member at the Dolphin Club. So let us know if either of you gals are interested in a swim! 🙂

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