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  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

    Mira :neocat_flag_nb:M This user is from outside of this forum
    Mira :neocat_flag_nb:M This user is from outside of this forum
    Mira :neocat_flag_nb:
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    #5

    @jdelacueva@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu is Google Play really the only way to use two-factor authentication there? not even a FIDO token or some other alternative?

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    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

      Actions speak louder than words.

      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

      Stupid, no?

      @EUCommission

      Henrik PauliP This user is from outside of this forum
      Henrik PauliP This user is from outside of this forum
      Henrik Pauli
      wrote last edited by
      #6

      @jdelacueva @EUCommission Similarly, that banks can deny you service because you're using a non-Google-approved system (instead of a wildly more insecure chinesium Android that was abandoned 5 years ago, which is magically still okay to use somehow), is an absolute disgrace and just really shouldn't be a thing.

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      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

        Strange QuarkS This user is from outside of this forum
        Strange QuarkS This user is from outside of this forum
        Strange Quark
        wrote last edited by
        #7

        @jdelacueva Besides the privacy risks, it seems reckless that a US Big Tech company should be gatekeeper on a European government website.

        I did manage to register my Yubikey but still...

        @EUCommission

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        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          AdelinaB This user is from outside of this forum
          AdelinaB This user is from outside of this forum
          Adelina
          wrote last edited by
          #8

          @jdelacueva @EUCommission There should be other ways to login. I initially set up e-ID but my national agency did not let me use it, or said it shouldn't be used even though it was theoretically possible on the EU website. But i understand the trouble, when I have issues with some EU systems they tell me to use Google Chrome because that's what they optimise for, and I find that so frustrating.

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          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            zetabetaZ This user is from outside of this forum
            zetabetaZ This user is from outside of this forum
            zetabeta
            wrote last edited by
            #9

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission
            https://keepandroidopen.org/

            developer verification gives more central control to alphabet inc.

            third party app installs are still possible in modified android systems.

            relying on closed platforms is a bad idea.

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            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              DoomsdaysCWD This user is from outside of this forum
              DoomsdaysCWD This user is from outside of this forum
              DoomsdaysCW
              wrote last edited by
              #10

              Yikes, @jdelacueva !

              @EUCommission

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              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                Actions speak louder than words.

                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                Stupid, no?

                @EUCommission

                CiclopC This user is from outside of this forum
                CiclopC This user is from outside of this forum
                Ciclop
                wrote last edited by
                #11

                @jdelacueva Would MicroG help? I've also found that the Huawei version of certain apps work without google services.

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                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

                  5ombr45 This user is from outside of this forum
                  5ombr45 This user is from outside of this forum
                  5ombr4
                  wrote last edited by
                  #12

                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                  This has to stop.

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                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    Mensch, MarinaE This user is from outside of this forum
                    Mensch, MarinaE This user is from outside of this forum
                    Mensch, Marina
                    wrote last edited by
                    #13

                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

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                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

                      DMTomD This user is from outside of this forum
                      DMTomD This user is from outside of this forum
                      DMTom
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                      #14

                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission my knowledge is at least 10/15 years old, but this might be not your bank’s stupid requirement, it’s one of Visa’s or Mastercard’s. I had to be certified by Visa/Mastercad/Amex to do eft interfaces, not by banks. And when specific transactions were declined I had to contact specific departments and read pages of docs till I find the clause that says exactly the opposite than they were telling me for several days…

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                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        Jacobo Da Riva MuñozJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jacobo Da Riva MuñozJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jacobo Da Riva Muñoz
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                        #15

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission use this in other platforms such as Linux phones (PostmarketOS, UBTouch, SailfishOS...) is science fiction.

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                        • Iván Sánchez OrtegaI Iván Sánchez Ortega

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission So in the hypothetical case I'd like to see the source code of that application to see why and how it uses google services, what would be the appropriate bureaucratic way to request it?

                          GreatLakeTroutG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          GreatLakeTrout
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                          #16

                          @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                          Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are saying……….oh wait I see My error now.

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                          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

                            Marco MolteniP This user is from outside of this forum
                            Marco MolteniP This user is from outside of this forum
                            Marco Molteni
                            wrote last edited by
                            #17

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                            Is this "EU Login app" the following:

                            > The EU Login app is developed by the European Commission to facilitate your day-to-day Multi-factor authentication for many EU applications and services.

                            from: https://trusted-digital-identity.europa.eu/creating-managing-and-using-your-eu-login-account/eu-login-mobile-application_en

                            ?

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                            • Mensch, MarinaE Mensch, Marina

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

                              Max L.M This user is from outside of this forum
                              Max L.M This user is from outside of this forum
                              Max L.
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                              #18

                              @energisch_ @jdelacueva @EUCommission It's not that they don't know, they just don't care about minorities.

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                              • AdelinaB Adelina

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission There should be other ways to login. I initially set up e-ID but my national agency did not let me use it, or said it shouldn't be used even though it was theoretically possible on the EU website. But i understand the trouble, when I have issues with some EU systems they tell me to use Google Chrome because that's what they optimise for, and I find that so frustrating.

                                LukefromDCL This user is from outside of this forum
                                LukefromDCL This user is from outside of this forum
                                LukefromDC
                                wrote last edited by
                                #19

                                @bluishgreen @jdelacueva @EUCommission What happens if you don't use any EU online portals at all? Can you still use an ATM wirh a bank issued card, and deal wirh bureaucratic things in person at a physical office?

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                                • LukefromDCL LukefromDC

                                  @bluishgreen @jdelacueva @EUCommission What happens if you don't use any EU online portals at all? Can you still use an ATM wirh a bank issued card, and deal wirh bureaucratic things in person at a physical office?

                                  AdelinaB This user is from outside of this forum
                                  AdelinaB This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Adelina
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                                  #20

                                  @LukefromDC @jdelacueva @EUCommission It does not relate to that, using EU portals is mostly for applying for grants/research funding or some business services. I only really use to apply for funding. I don't have experience with other services but it is not related to banking or accessing basic services.

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                                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                    Actions speak louder than words.

                                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                    Stupid, no?

                                    @EUCommission

                                    ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
                                    ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
                                    ĞÖKÜ👻👻™
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #21

                                    @jdelacueva mmm, install GPS (oldest version) then remove all permissions and cut all internet permissions (no background no wifi. So no data to GPS by doing this.. Then install ur EU app.

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                                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                      Actions speak louder than words.

                                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                      Stupid, no?

                                      @EUCommission

                                      Phil 📸P This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Phil 📸P This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Phil 📸
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #22

                                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                      Would it be possible to install Aurora Store on your LineageOS phone instead of Google Play Store?

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                                      • Mensch, MarinaE Mensch, Marina

                                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

                                        divVerentD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        divVerentD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        divVerent
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                                        #23
                                        @energisch_@troet.cafe @jdelacueva@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Next time they will ask for Internet Explorer and 800x600.
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                                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                          Actions speak louder than words.

                                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                          Stupid, no?

                                          @EUCommission

                                          DECAYN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          DECAYN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          DECAY
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #24

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission That's pretty much all why I have an emulated android on my pc.

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