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  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

    Strange QuarkS This user is from outside of this forum
    Strange QuarkS This user is from outside of this forum
    Strange Quark
    wrote last edited by
    #7

    @jdelacueva Besides the privacy risks, it seems reckless that a US Big Tech company should be gatekeeper on a European government website.

    I did manage to register my Yubikey but still...

    @EUCommission

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    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

      Actions speak louder than words.

      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

      Stupid, no?

      @EUCommission

      AdelinaB This user is from outside of this forum
      AdelinaB This user is from outside of this forum
      Adelina
      wrote last edited by
      #8

      @jdelacueva @EUCommission There should be other ways to login. I initially set up e-ID but my national agency did not let me use it, or said it shouldn't be used even though it was theoretically possible on the EU website. But i understand the trouble, when I have issues with some EU systems they tell me to use Google Chrome because that's what they optimise for, and I find that so frustrating.

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      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

        zetabetaZ This user is from outside of this forum
        zetabetaZ This user is from outside of this forum
        zetabeta
        wrote last edited by
        #9

        @jdelacueva @EUCommission
        https://keepandroidopen.org/

        developer verification gives more central control to alphabet inc.

        third party app installs are still possible in modified android systems.

        relying on closed platforms is a bad idea.

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        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          DoomsdaysCWD This user is from outside of this forum
          DoomsdaysCWD This user is from outside of this forum
          DoomsdaysCW
          wrote last edited by
          #10

          Yikes, @jdelacueva !

          @EUCommission

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          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            CiclopC This user is from outside of this forum
            CiclopC This user is from outside of this forum
            Ciclop
            wrote last edited by
            #11

            @jdelacueva Would MicroG help? I've also found that the Huawei version of certain apps work without google services.

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            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              5ombr45 This user is from outside of this forum
              5ombr45 This user is from outside of this forum
              5ombr4
              wrote last edited by
              #12

              @jdelacueva @EUCommission

              This has to stop.

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              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                Actions speak louder than words.

                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                Stupid, no?

                @EUCommission

                Mensch, MarinaE This user is from outside of this forum
                Mensch, MarinaE This user is from outside of this forum
                Mensch, Marina
                wrote last edited by
                #13

                @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

                Max L.M divVerentD 2 Replies Last reply
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                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

                  DMTomD This user is from outside of this forum
                  DMTomD This user is from outside of this forum
                  DMTom
                  wrote last edited by
                  #14

                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission my knowledge is at least 10/15 years old, but this might be not your bank’s stupid requirement, it’s one of Visa’s or Mastercard’s. I had to be certified by Visa/Mastercad/Amex to do eft interfaces, not by banks. And when specific transactions were declined I had to contact specific departments and read pages of docs till I find the clause that says exactly the opposite than they were telling me for several days…

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                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    Jacobo Da Riva MuñozJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    Jacobo Da Riva MuñozJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    Jacobo Da Riva Muñoz
                    wrote last edited by
                    #15

                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission use this in other platforms such as Linux phones (PostmarketOS, UBTouch, SailfishOS...) is science fiction.

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                    • Iván Sánchez OrtegaI Iván Sánchez Ortega

                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission So in the hypothetical case I'd like to see the source code of that application to see why and how it uses google services, what would be the appropriate bureaucratic way to request it?

                      GreatLakeTroutG This user is from outside of this forum
                      GreatLakeTroutG This user is from outside of this forum
                      GreatLakeTrout
                      wrote last edited by
                      #16

                      @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                      Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are saying……….oh wait I see My error now.

                      🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora:F W 🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5%🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳D 3 Replies Last reply
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                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        Marco MolteniP This user is from outside of this forum
                        Marco MolteniP This user is from outside of this forum
                        Marco Molteni
                        wrote last edited by
                        #17

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                        Is this "EU Login app" the following:

                        > The EU Login app is developed by the European Commission to facilitate your day-to-day Multi-factor authentication for many EU applications and services.

                        from: https://trusted-digital-identity.europa.eu/creating-managing-and-using-your-eu-login-account/eu-login-mobile-application_en

                        ?

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                        • Mensch, MarinaE Mensch, Marina

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

                          Max L.M This user is from outside of this forum
                          Max L.M This user is from outside of this forum
                          Max L.
                          wrote last edited by
                          #18

                          @energisch_ @jdelacueva @EUCommission It's not that they don't know, they just don't care about minorities.

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                          • AdelinaB Adelina

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission There should be other ways to login. I initially set up e-ID but my national agency did not let me use it, or said it shouldn't be used even though it was theoretically possible on the EU website. But i understand the trouble, when I have issues with some EU systems they tell me to use Google Chrome because that's what they optimise for, and I find that so frustrating.

                            LukefromDCL This user is from outside of this forum
                            LukefromDCL This user is from outside of this forum
                            LukefromDC
                            wrote last edited by
                            #19

                            @bluishgreen @jdelacueva @EUCommission What happens if you don't use any EU online portals at all? Can you still use an ATM wirh a bank issued card, and deal wirh bureaucratic things in person at a physical office?

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                            • LukefromDCL LukefromDC

                              @bluishgreen @jdelacueva @EUCommission What happens if you don't use any EU online portals at all? Can you still use an ATM wirh a bank issued card, and deal wirh bureaucratic things in person at a physical office?

                              AdelinaB This user is from outside of this forum
                              AdelinaB This user is from outside of this forum
                              Adelina
                              wrote last edited by
                              #20

                              @LukefromDC @jdelacueva @EUCommission It does not relate to that, using EU portals is mostly for applying for grants/research funding or some business services. I only really use to apply for funding. I don't have experience with other services but it is not related to banking or accessing basic services.

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                              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

                                ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
                                ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
                                ĞÖKÜ👻👻™
                                wrote last edited by
                                #21

                                @jdelacueva mmm, install GPS (oldest version) then remove all permissions and cut all internet permissions (no background no wifi. So no data to GPS by doing this.. Then install ur EU app.

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                                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                  Actions speak louder than words.

                                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                  Stupid, no?

                                  @EUCommission

                                  Phil 📸P This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Phil 📸P This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Phil 📸
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #22

                                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                  Would it be possible to install Aurora Store on your LineageOS phone instead of Google Play Store?

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                                  • Mensch, MarinaE Mensch, Marina

                                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

                                    divVerentD This user is from outside of this forum
                                    divVerentD This user is from outside of this forum
                                    divVerent
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #23
                                    @energisch_@troet.cafe @jdelacueva@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Next time they will ask for Internet Explorer and 800x600.
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                                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                      Actions speak louder than words.

                                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                      Stupid, no?

                                      @EUCommission

                                      DECAYN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      DECAYN This user is from outside of this forum
                                      DECAY
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #24

                                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission That's pretty much all why I have an emulated android on my pc.

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                                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                        Actions speak louder than words.

                                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                        Stupid, no?

                                        @EUCommission

                                        The DoctorD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        The DoctorD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        The Doctor
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #25

                                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission No. Working according to plan.

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                                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                          Actions speak louder than words.

                                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                          Stupid, no?

                                          @EUCommission

                                          nynN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          nynN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          nyn
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #26

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission I wanted to test, if MicroG is enough as Google Play Services replacement but I couldn't since it detected my device is rooted and therefor blocks it for "security reasons"

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