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What a shame that would have!

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  • Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S This user is from outside of this forum
    Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S This user is from outside of this forum
    Sasha :verifiedtransbian:
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    What a shame that would have!

    Kevin Karhan :verified:K George DinwiddieG BundesligatrainerB Embrace Civil DisobedienceP EndicottRoad59E 13 Replies Last reply
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    • Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S Sasha :verifiedtransbian:

      What a shame that would have!

      Kevin Karhan :verified:K This user is from outside of this forum
      Kevin Karhan :verified:K This user is from outside of this forum
      Kevin Karhan :verified:
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      @sashag that's why many juristictions outlaw safety gear at protests as "illegal armour"…

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      • Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S Sasha :verifiedtransbian:

        What a shame that would have!

        George DinwiddieG This user is from outside of this forum
        George DinwiddieG This user is from outside of this forum
        George Dinwiddie
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        @sashag I think the police scanners that you can generally buy are receivers, only. They scan a lot of frequencies to pick up signals from many transmitters in a frequency band, but don't have transmitters in them. Transmitting on police and emergency frequencies without a license would be quite illegal.

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        • Kevin Karhan :verified:K Kevin Karhan :verified:

          @sashag that's why many juristictions outlaw safety gear at protests as "illegal armour"…

          su_liamS This user is from outside of this forum
          su_liamS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @kkarhan @sashag We need to bring back Civil Disobedience. Unjust laws violently enforced by a band of thugs are not to be obeyed.

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          • George DinwiddieG George Dinwiddie

            @sashag I think the police scanners that you can generally buy are receivers, only. They scan a lot of frequencies to pick up signals from many transmitters in a frequency band, but don't have transmitters in them. Transmitting on police and emergency frequencies without a license would be quite illegal.

            K.C. BuddP This user is from outside of this forum
            K.C. BuddP This user is from outside of this forum
            K.C. Budd
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            @gdinwiddie @sashag agreed. And in all but the most rural areas, the police have moved to encrypted digital trunking systems instead of analog radios, so scanners aren't very useful.

            The first half of the advice about PPD and buckets to contain smoke grenades is 👍 though

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            • Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S Sasha :verifiedtransbian:

              What a shame that would have!

              BundesligatrainerB This user is from outside of this forum
              BundesligatrainerB This user is from outside of this forum
              Bundesligatrainer
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              @sashag Just wondering: Would that be legal in the US?
              In some places when participating in a demonstration, it's not allowed to wear "defensive equipment" like helmets.
              Is the law that regulates demonstrations federal?

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              • BundesligatrainerB Bundesligatrainer

                @sashag Just wondering: Would that be legal in the US?
                In some places when participating in a demonstration, it's not allowed to wear "defensive equipment" like helmets.
                Is the law that regulates demonstrations federal?

                Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S This user is from outside of this forum
                Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Bundesligatrainer I don't know. People in these areas should though. And be appropriately careful.

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                • Kevin Karhan :verified:K Kevin Karhan :verified:

                  @sashag that's why many juristictions outlaw safety gear at protests as "illegal armour"…

                  hexH This user is from outside of this forum
                  hexH This user is from outside of this forum
                  hex
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                  @kkarhan @sashag also police use encrypted (but perhaps crackable) frequencies for coms. Also transmitting on police frequencies is definitely not legal.

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                  • su_liamS su_liam

                    @kkarhan @sashag We need to bring back Civil Disobedience. Unjust laws violently enforced by a band of thugs are not to be obeyed.

                    hexH This user is from outside of this forum
                    hexH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @su_liam @kkarhan @sashag absolutely, but doing something illegal is a decision that people choose, not something that someone does because of misinformation.

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                    • Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S Sasha :verifiedtransbian:

                      What a shame that would have!

                      Embrace Civil DisobedienceP This user is from outside of this forum
                      Embrace Civil DisobedienceP This user is from outside of this forum
                      Embrace Civil Disobedience
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                      @sashag I don't understand why resisters aren't already using that equipment & if they don't want to carry a gun, for the love of god, buy pepper spray & bear spray. Buy spray paint & cover ICE vehicles. Use objects to flatten tires, bats to break windows. There's no reason to be unarmed or unprotected. Who made the rule that only fascists are allowed weapons? Civil disobedience isn't something to be considered, it should be the standard. We shouldn't be afraid of civil war. We should embrace it

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                      • Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S Sasha :verifiedtransbian:

                        What a shame that would have!

                        EndicottRoad59E This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @sashag And it would be a terrible shame if all of these actions make it impossible for the goons to kidnap and/or terrorize people.

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                        • Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S Sasha :verifiedtransbian:

                          What a shame that would have!

                          DianeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @sashag

                          Some police switched to encrypted digital radios and are hard to listen to on scanners.

                          Shakes fist at local police department.

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                          • Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S Sasha :verifiedtransbian:

                            What a shame that would have!

                            obscurestarO This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @sashag It would be a shame as the GOP would use it to end Right to Repair your own home. Not like the evil monsters haven't criminalized bottles of drinking water already. Did you know they can arrest you for a 'drug paraphernalia' or 'aiding illegal immigrants' in some of the redhole states for having and/or distributing WATER.

                            What'd be REALLY great if people would be proactive rather than reactive and paid attention before things got this bad.

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                            • Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S Sasha :verifiedtransbian:

                              What a shame that would have!

                              A_MinionA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @sashag And for further down the road, just for a thought experiment. In the majority of states it is not illegal to Carry either concealed or open at your Voting place. Check your local laws. With all the folks with ideas about stolen elections we may need to go to the Polls Armed . . Just a thought and watch out for those states that are trying to stop those laws. https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/guns-and-polling-places/

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                              • K.C. BuddP K.C. Budd

                                @gdinwiddie @sashag agreed. And in all but the most rural areas, the police have moved to encrypted digital trunking systems instead of analog radios, so scanners aren't very useful.

                                The first half of the advice about PPD and buckets to contain smoke grenades is 👍 though

                                Draken BlackKnightD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Draken BlackKnight
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                                @phreakmonkey @gdinwiddie @sashag
                                You'd need something like a Baofeng UV-5R. Also, compared to the Signal Protocol, radio encryption sucks and relies on the "tone" of a radio so it's easier to crack. Not "easy to crack," "easier to crack."

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                                • DianeA Diane

                                  @sashag

                                  Some police switched to encrypted digital radios and are hard to listen to on scanners.

                                  Shakes fist at local police department.

                                  Draken BlackKnightD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @alienghic @sashag
                                  Get a Baofeng UV-5R, either load DragonOS on a LiveUSB stick or just download Chirp, connect the Baofeng to your computer, go through each tone on your local police department's frequency, and maybe you'll get lucky.

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                                  • Draken BlackKnightD Draken BlackKnight

                                    @alienghic @sashag
                                    Get a Baofeng UV-5R, either load DragonOS on a LiveUSB stick or just download Chirp, connect the Baofeng to your computer, go through each tone on your local police department's frequency, and maybe you'll get lucky.

                                    DianeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Diane
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                                    @draken @sashag

                                    My local police department is using an all digital P25 trunking system which is encrypted with AES-256.

                                    You're not getting lucky and decrypting that.

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                                    • Sasha :verifiedtransbian:S Sasha :verifiedtransbian:

                                      What a shame that would have!

                                      EvaS This user is from outside of this forum
                                      EvaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @sashag a damn crying shame indeed

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                                      • A_MinionA A_Minion

                                        @sashag And for further down the road, just for a thought experiment. In the majority of states it is not illegal to Carry either concealed or open at your Voting place. Check your local laws. With all the folks with ideas about stolen elections we may need to go to the Polls Armed . . Just a thought and watch out for those states that are trying to stop those laws. https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/guns-and-polling-places/

                                        Acin ☆S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @A_Minion learn a little more about the fight against voter suppression efforts and attending organized protests instead of suggesting "good guy with a guy" nonsense. Going to the polls visibly armed deters voters and escalates the dangers to everyone present.

                                        @sashag

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                                        • Acin ☆S Acin ☆

                                          @A_Minion learn a little more about the fight against voter suppression efforts and attending organized protests instead of suggesting "good guy with a guy" nonsense. Going to the polls visibly armed deters voters and escalates the dangers to everyone present.

                                          @sashag

                                          A_MinionA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @shadowfals @sashag
                                          1/2
                                          At some point we will have lost any chance of regaining our democracy. It's something to ponder it maybe necessary. I've already fought for my country once. I don't think we have the patience of Gandhi. If you will recall MLK was not alone, there was a backdrop ready to react to violence with violence, Malcolm X. Between outrage and fear he became the voice of freedom. We have already heard from the Panthers. The people who created this nation fought a revolution.

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