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  3. Kyle Rittenhouse walked up to police carrying an assault weapon during protests in Kenosha, then killed people, and Conservatives called him a hero.

Kyle Rittenhouse walked up to police carrying an assault weapon during protests in Kenosha, then killed people, and Conservatives called him a hero.

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  • N Neil Moffatt

    @augieray Are there no members of the US legal profession incensed enough to demand that murderers in cold blood are not brought to trial? Have legal workers been told to stay mute?

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    Augie Ray
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    #35

    @NicelyManifest There are lawyers fighting for the right side. And Trump is losing many cases. But with government agencies purging attorneys who don't agree and many Trump-appointed lawyers protecting him, it isn't a cut-and-dried situation. Making arguments to biased courts isn't always a solution.

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    • Augie RayA Augie Ray

      @Mab_813 Congrats. People like you are arguing with those trying to make a difference. MAGA, Trump and Russia thank you. Keep up the good work.

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      #36

      @augieray there are very few protests in Minnesota. The vast majority of what's happening is not protests, but folks observing and documenting crimes, helping their neighbors, and other forms of non-protest direct action. @Mab_813 is raising very good and important points and your inexplicably hostile, hair trigger reaction does not inspire confidence. Please reconsider, these conversations are important!

      Signed, 20-year resident of the twin cities, child refugee from a totalitarian regime, protester, conscientious objector, etc

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      • Rich 🔶UK #RejoinEUR Rich 🔶UK #RejoinEU

        @augieray @rpin42@mastodonapp.uk absolutely agree. Just felt in the moment that the risks need to be acknowledged. This guy is very good on non-violent direct action and protest if you can sort though all the other stuff https://youtube.com/@roger_hallam?si=aW_L1TUKLLbhKaqN

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        #37

        @rpin42@mastodon.social @augieray @rpin42@mastodonapp.uk The best non-violent action is a general strike. So long as we look out for each other, no one is harmed from it (other than the system).

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        • Augie RayA Augie Ray

          After all, this is the president who casually suggested a couple of weeks ago that “when you think of it, we shouldn't even have an election.” (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/five-takeaways-reuters-interview-president-trump-2026-01-15/#:~:text=%E2%80%9Cwhen%20you%20think%20of%20it%2C%20we%20shouldn%27t%20even%20have%20an%20election.%E2%80%9D)

          Legal experts continue to assert Trump doesn't have the power to stop the midterms (https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/17/politics/midterm-elections-trump-2026-analysis), but this is a president who claims unlimited power, has ignored court orders and rulings, and is protected by a biased Supreme Court.

          5/8

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          #38

          @augieray

          Protected by a christo-fascist supreme court, you mean. They are traitors working to overthrow the constitution.

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          • Augie RayA Augie Ray

            Today, right-wing accounts on X are posting that ICE and the US are doing “pretti good.” “Don't tread on me” has turned to “Tread on the liberals all you want.”

            Trump has flooded Minnesota, which has an estimated undocumented population of around 100,000 (https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/unauthorized-immigrants-country-region), with thousands of masked, armed agents while ignoring red states such as Texas (with 2 million undocumented) and Florida (1.2 million).

            3/8

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            Esteban Küber :rust:
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            #39

            @augieray
            > “Don't tread on me” has turned to “Tread on the liberals all you want.”

            It always was.

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            • Augie RayA Augie Ray

              @starlily I'm not the one fighting, "Chief." In a world where people can pick fights with MAGAts and conservatives, it pisses me off when people want to pick fights with people with whom they agree because they think they got one point of their argument incorrect.

              Seriously, train your fire on the people destroying democracy. Not the people you disagree with when they say 3.5% of the populace protesting can make a difference.

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              @augieray
              The poster (and I) largely agree with your points. I personally feel you are over reacting to starting a discussion about one of them.

              It is important to be open to dialog about things you present in public. We are here in this world to educate and entertain each other, and part of that is listening when you might be wrong, instead of insisting you are infallible.

              This isnt a fight, its a discussion. Think about where you are firing, too.

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              • Augie RayA Augie Ray

                Today, right-wing accounts on X are posting that ICE and the US are doing “pretti good.” “Don't tread on me” has turned to “Tread on the liberals all you want.”

                Trump has flooded Minnesota, which has an estimated undocumented population of around 100,000 (https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/unauthorized-immigrants-country-region), with thousands of masked, armed agents while ignoring red states such as Texas (with 2 million undocumented) and Florida (1.2 million).

                3/8

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                #41

                @augieray 100K ICE agents is a huge number. That many people have a large logistics footprint - they all need beds, and food, and places to poop.

                Seems to me it would be useful to know where all of them sleep and where they buy their food.

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                • Augie RayA Augie Ray

                  Are most Americans content to sit back and watch federal officials incite an insurrection, kill Americans, spread bald-faced lies about what happened, and end democracy? Is all that matters that you have a job and the stock market hasn't (yet) crashed? I hope we're better than that. I hope YOU'RE better than that.

                  It's been generations since Americans have been called upon to be brave, defend our values, and fight for change. Our time has come.

                  8/8

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                  #42

                  @augieray Yes, they are. "Moderate" or "centrist" is a polite way of saying embarassed fascist.

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                  • Augie RayA Augie Ray

                    @Finitum @darwinwoodka So, we march there!

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                    #43

                    @augieray I've been saying this. It has to be personal. The protests have to occur at the homes of those funding and insulated from it.

                    @Finitum @darwinwoodka

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                    • Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱G Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱

                      @augieray 100K ICE agents is a huge number. That many people have a large logistics footprint - they all need beds, and food, and places to poop.

                      Seems to me it would be useful to know where all of them sleep and where they buy their food.

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                      #44

                      @grumble209 I didn't say there were 100,000 ICE agents. I understand the parentheticals might make it a bit difficult to read, so removed, what I said was, "Trump has flooded Minnesota, which has an estimated undocumented population of around 100,000, with thousands of masked, armed agents."

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                      • Augie RayA Augie Ray

                        Kyle Rittenhouse walked up to police carrying an assault weapon during protests in Kenosha, then killed people, and Conservatives called him a hero.

                        Alex Pretti filmed officers during a protest, kept his handgun holstered, was wrestled to the ground, had his weapon taken away, and then was shot dead, and Conservatives are calling him a terrorist.

                        1/8

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                        JayArgh
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                        @augieray

                        They also lost their minds when a literal insurrectionist was shot while trying to break into secure room, but people on street have no rights whatsoever and it's "just comply" or else it's totally cool to murder you. They are shameless hypocrites and terrible people, and nothing they say should ever be given a shred of consideration, take note of who they are and block/disown. MSM, dems, and too many others have played along for far too long, they're simply horrible lying scumbags and need to be treated as such.

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                        • Lily StarS Lily Star

                          @augieray
                          The poster (and I) largely agree with your points. I personally feel you are over reacting to starting a discussion about one of them.

                          It is important to be open to dialog about things you present in public. We are here in this world to educate and entertain each other, and part of that is listening when you might be wrong, instead of insisting you are infallible.

                          This isnt a fight, its a discussion. Think about where you are firing, too.

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                          Lily Star
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                          #46

                          @augieray I could have guessed Augie would block me. He seemed like the type that would brook no discussion on his pronouncements.

                          No loss for me. Like I said, I feel when you post in public, you should listen to arguments made in good faith. Otherwise you are just another talking point parrot.

                          I understand everyones pissed and raw right now, but fighting each other is what they want. Dont give in like Augie.

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                          • Darwin WoodkaD Darwin Woodka

                            @augieray

                            and the NYT helped create it

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                            @darwinwoodka @augieray 100% NYT are #enemiesofthepeople

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                            • RinostarGamesR RinostarGames

                              @rpin42@mastodon.social @augieray @rpin42@mastodonapp.uk The best non-violent action is a general strike. So long as we look out for each other, no one is harmed from it (other than the system).

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                              @RinostarGames @rpin42@mastodon.social @augieray these days I agree. These are desperate times 👍

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                              • DBL DB

                                @darwinwoodka @augieray 100% NYT are #enemiesofthepeople

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                                @lawyersgunsnmoney @darwinwoodka If you refuse to welcome people or companies who change and take appropriate action, then don't be surprised when no people or companies change or take appropriate action.

                                Either welcome change when it happens, or accept that you are part of the reason that stops change from occurring.

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                                • Augie RayA Augie Ray

                                  @lawyersgunsnmoney @darwinwoodka If you refuse to welcome people or companies who change and take appropriate action, then don't be surprised when no people or companies change or take appropriate action.

                                  Either welcome change when it happens, or accept that you are part of the reason that stops change from occurring.

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                                  @augieray @darwinwoodka Not sure I’m in that camp, but ok. Cook and Bezos were with Dump yesterday so that’s the direction many companies have taken. My view is that the non-MAGA coalition of the willing needs all the help we can get. That said, at some level we’re going to need a better de-Nazification program than they had after WWII.

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                                  • Augie RayA Augie Ray

                                    @NicelyManifest There are lawyers fighting for the right side. And Trump is losing many cases. But with government agencies purging attorneys who don't agree and many Trump-appointed lawyers protecting him, it isn't a cut-and-dried situation. Making arguments to biased courts isn't always a solution.

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                                    Neil Moffatt
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                                    #51

                                    @augieray Thanks for informing. Much appreciated. There is hope, even if up against corrupt power.

                                    It baffles me why citizen arrests of failed politicians rarely seems to happen.

                                    I loved the Serbian fight against Milosovic - using humour to belittle him.

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                                    • Augie RayA Augie Ray

                                      Kyle Rittenhouse walked up to police carrying an assault weapon during protests in Kenosha, then killed people, and Conservatives called him a hero.

                                      Alex Pretti filmed officers during a protest, kept his handgun holstered, was wrestled to the ground, had his weapon taken away, and then was shot dead, and Conservatives are calling him a terrorist.

                                      1/8

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                                      @augieray

                                      Very disturbing, murder in combination with its denial, while obvious evidence available. It is apparently OK to kill those of other opinion, full blowing fascism has arrived.

                                      This only needs a spark to ignite…

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                                      • Augie RayA Augie Ray

                                        Are most Americans content to sit back and watch federal officials incite an insurrection, kill Americans, spread bald-faced lies about what happened, and end democracy? Is all that matters that you have a job and the stock market hasn't (yet) crashed? I hope we're better than that. I hope YOU'RE better than that.

                                        It's been generations since Americans have been called upon to be brave, defend our values, and fight for change. Our time has come.

                                        8/8

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                                        LukefromDC
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                                        @augieray Our time has come, as it did for my father's generation in 1941. Same enemy, same fight.

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                                        • BeccaB Becca

                                          @augieray I've been saying this. It has to be personal. The protests have to occur at the homes of those funding and insulated from it.

                                          @Finitum @darwinwoodka

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                                          LukefromDC
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                                          @bweller @augieray @Finitum @darwinwoodka Some of the direct action should go there too. Don't forget their yachts and golf clubs too.

                                          That's a big part of how animal rights activists sank that puppy-killing vivisector Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS). It's also how Atlas was forced off Atlanta's Cop City project.

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