drama!

@mastodonmigration @benroyce @crow

OK sure. But new folks who join the platform - especially when they come from wild west sites like twitter - need to be socialized to the mores here. And without a gentle comment, how are they supposed to learn those rules? Blocking without comment doesn't help anyone.

@benroyce @ignova @crow Because I can't guess everything some random person might find troubling or offensive, I just put the full text of every post in a content warning so folks can decide for themselves whether to open and read it.

@mastodonmigration @benroyce @crow

OK sure. But new folks who join the platform - especially when they come from wild west sites like twitter - need to be socialized to the mores here. And without a gentle comment, how are they supposed to learn those rules? Blocking without comment doesn't help anyone.

@benroyce we have the freedom to post exactly as we want to AND we have the freedom to block posters that don't bring value (value defined beyond money) into our worlds.

I got into an internet fight with an economics journalist because he was antagonizing people about content warnings and how no one would see his posts if he used content warnings. Which makes me wonder how good a journalist is if he can't write a headline on a CW that would create appropriate engagement. A CW header doesn't just have to list all of the triggering items, it can be used just like a headline.

@ignova @crow

exactly. there is a range of normal posts and what people consider that to be obviously has large grey areas

but then there are also some demands for care and concern that are so absurd and extreme it is not possible for anyone well intentioned and sincere to even remotely adhere to them

some people just want a giant CW on every single post in existence apparently

or rather, they are controlling busybodies who get off on gatekeeping

@benroyce @ignova @crow Mastodon will literally add CWs for you based on keywords. It's not a perfect system, but no-one is entitled to move through life insulated from every little thing they personally don't want to encounter - and making it up to other people to pander to all your idiosyncratic aversions and phobias is unreasonable.

I've no time for the HOA gatekeepers who can't take some adult responsibility for what they see online.

@benroyce @ignova @crow Mastodon will literally add CWs for you based on keywords. It's not a perfect system, but no-one is entitled to move through life insulated from every little thing they personally don't want to encounter - and making it up to other people to pander to all your idiosyncratic aversions and phobias is unreasonable.

I've no time for the HOA gatekeepers who can't take some adult responsibility for what they see online.

@ApostateEnglishman @benroyce @ignova @crow

This is something I've always remarked on Mastodon.

Each one of us has the power to curate our own timelines to our needs. I've had extensive muted word lists in the past when I was feeling particularly sensitive.

Only thing I didn't like was when people skirted around words, so the muting didn't work (example: saying "Orange Turd" instead of "Donald Trump", or not clarifying anywhere).

I still didn't go around telling people what to post.

drama!

i need to rant about #ContentWarning creep

i posted once of a Ukrainian reporter whose corpse was abused by Russia. i got calls for #CW. no pictures, no text details, just a link to a story

i suspect some CW calls are a manipulation to hide fascist abuse

certainly some are sincere

but they aren't serving a valid goal. an extreme level of sensitivity is absurd and unactionable

gore? absolutely CW

but some calls serve #fascism by hiding abuse. abuse we rightfully need to broadcast

@benroyce

I've complained about this many times ... Hugz

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Please don't block me ... I'm 71% brat ... Giggles

I totally agree with you too

Hugz & xXx

@MelissaBearTrix

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{on second thought, scratch that, just }

drama!

i need to rant about #ContentWarning creep

i posted once of a Ukrainian reporter whose corpse was abused by Russia. i got calls for #CW. no pictures, no text details, just a link to a story

i suspect some CW calls are a manipulation to hide fascist abuse

certainly some are sincere

but they aren't serving a valid goal. an extreme level of sensitivity is absurd and unactionable

gore? absolutely CW

but some calls serve #fascism by hiding abuse. abuse we rightfully need to broadcast

@magicalleatherbear

and you can see me in the replies angry at people calling for a CW on the post

we *need* to get the word out. that overrules some sensitivities that are far from the standard boilerplate sensitivities that absolutely call for a CW

in fact i would think that people who have been victims of police brutality, whatever their sensitivity to such content, would agree with us that that is the right approach

@msbellows @ignova @crow

i see what you're saying. double the text, double the bandwidth. make mastodon traffic look huge! (/s)

@benroyce
You do get that the word abuse itself is a memory trigger for abused people who don't like to be triggered by some news - no matter how valid or important it is?
If you get that, you understand that CW isn't there to censor, but to be nice and to make life better for certain people. That's part of why people use the Fediverse and don't use Twitter.

@benroyce @crow i think there is a significant and unjustified shifting of blame going on when people say that normal posts have 'caused' panic attacks, nightmares, and so on.

non-extreme posts are not the primary cause of mental health tailspins. a picture of a sandwich does not 'cause' someone to spiral into an eating disorder relapse. if something so innocuous sets that person off, they were already on the brink, and it's unfair to blame the sandwich poster for severe mental health issues that were actually caused by something else.