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  • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

    @ignova @crow

    exactly. there is a range of normal posts and what people consider that to be obviously has large grey areas

    but then there are also some demands for care and concern that are so absurd and extreme it is not possible for anyone well intentioned and sincere to even remotely adhere to them

    some people just want a giant CW on every single post in existence apparently

    or rather, they are controlling busybodies who get off on gatekeeping

    The Sleight Doctor πŸƒπŸ‰A This user is from outside of this forum
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    @benroyce @ignova @crow Mastodon will literally add CWs for you based on keywords. It's not a perfect system, but no-one is entitled to move through life insulated from every little thing they personally don't want to encounter - and making it up to other people to pander to all your idiosyncratic aversions and phobias is unreasonable.

    I've no time for the HOA gatekeepers who can't take some πŸ‘‰πŸΌadult responsibilityπŸ‘ˆπŸΌ for what they see online.

    Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Fruits! πŸ§”πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆF 2 Replies Last reply
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    • The Sleight Doctor πŸƒπŸ‰A The Sleight Doctor πŸƒπŸ‰

      @benroyce @ignova @crow Mastodon will literally add CWs for you based on keywords. It's not a perfect system, but no-one is entitled to move through life insulated from every little thing they personally don't want to encounter - and making it up to other people to pander to all your idiosyncratic aversions and phobias is unreasonable.

      I've no time for the HOA gatekeepers who can't take some πŸ‘‰πŸΌadult responsibilityπŸ‘ˆπŸΌ for what they see online.

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      #48

      @ApostateEnglishman @ignova @crow

      πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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      • The Sleight Doctor πŸƒπŸ‰A The Sleight Doctor πŸƒπŸ‰

        @benroyce @ignova @crow Mastodon will literally add CWs for you based on keywords. It's not a perfect system, but no-one is entitled to move through life insulated from every little thing they personally don't want to encounter - and making it up to other people to pander to all your idiosyncratic aversions and phobias is unreasonable.

        I've no time for the HOA gatekeepers who can't take some πŸ‘‰πŸΌadult responsibilityπŸ‘ˆπŸΌ for what they see online.

        Fruits! πŸ§”πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆF This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
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        @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce @ignova @crow

        This is something I've always remarked on Mastodon.

        Each one of us has the power to curate our own timelines to our needs. I've had extensive muted word lists in the past when I was feeling particularly sensitive.

        Only thing I didn't like was when people skirted around words, so the muting didn't work (example: saying "Orange Turd" instead of "Donald Trump", or not clarifying anywhere).

        I still didn't go around telling people what to post.

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        • Fruits! πŸ§”πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆF Fruits! πŸ§”πŸ»β€β™‚οΈπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

          @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce @ignova @crow

          This is something I've always remarked on Mastodon.

          Each one of us has the power to curate our own timelines to our needs. I've had extensive muted word lists in the past when I was feeling particularly sensitive.

          Only thing I didn't like was when people skirted around words, so the muting didn't work (example: saying "Orange Turd" instead of "Donald Trump", or not clarifying anywhere).

          I still didn't go around telling people what to post.

          Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
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          @fruitcakesareyum @ApostateEnglishman @ignova @crow βœ…

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          • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

            drama!

            i need to rant about #ContentWarning creep

            i posted once of a Ukrainian reporter whose corpse was abused by Russia. i got calls for #CW. no pictures, no text details, just a link to a story

            i suspect some CW calls are a manipulation to hide fascist abuse

            certainly some are sincere

            but they aren't serving a valid goal. an extreme level of sensitivity is absurd and unactionable

            gore? absolutely CW

            but some calls serve #fascism by hiding abuse. abuse we rightfully need to broadcast

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            @benroyce

            I've complained about this many times ... Hugz

            Giggles

            Please don't block me ... I'm 71% brat ... Giggles

            I totally agree with you too

            Hugz & xXx

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            • Melissa BearTrixM Melissa BearTrix

              @benroyce

              I've complained about this many times ... Hugz

              Giggles

              Please don't block me ... I'm 71% brat ... Giggles

              I totally agree with you too

              Hugz & xXx

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              wrote last edited by
              #52

              @MelissaBearTrix

              {insert longwinded argument here}

              {on second thought, scratch that, just πŸ™Œ }

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              • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

                @MelissaBearTrix

                {insert longwinded argument here}

                {on second thought, scratch that, just πŸ™Œ }

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                @benroyce

                Hugz ... Knocking head .... Yes

                Hugz & xXx

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                • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

                  drama!

                  i need to rant about #ContentWarning creep

                  i posted once of a Ukrainian reporter whose corpse was abused by Russia. i got calls for #CW. no pictures, no text details, just a link to a story

                  i suspect some CW calls are a manipulation to hide fascist abuse

                  certainly some are sincere

                  but they aren't serving a valid goal. an extreme level of sensitivity is absurd and unactionable

                  gore? absolutely CW

                  but some calls serve #fascism by hiding abuse. abuse we rightfully need to broadcast

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #54

                  @benroyce content warnings started as an empathetic, human consideration. But like anything else, it doesn't take long for them to be co-opted and watered down to meaninglessness by the marketing machine.

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                  • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

                    @magicalleatherbear

                    and you can see me in the replies angry at people calling for a CW on the post

                    we *need* to get the word out. that overrules some sensitivities that are far from the standard boilerplate sensitivities that absolutely call for a CW

                    in fact i would think that people who have been victims of police brutality, whatever their sensitivity to such content, would agree with us that that is the right approach

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                    @benroyce I would hope the fediverse of all places would encourage us to expose these atrocities.

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                    • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡©

                      @msbellows @ignova @crow

                      i see what you're saying. double the text, double the bandwidth. make mastodon traffic look huge! (/s)

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                      @benroyce @msbellows @ignova @crow with that CW I expected some serious sh*t in your toot πŸ˜‚.

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                      • gobsmackedG gobsmacked

                        @benroyce
                        You do get that the word abuse itself is a memory trigger for abused people who don't like to be triggered by some news - no matter how valid or important it is?
                        If you get that, you understand that CW isn't there to censor, but to be nice and to make life better for certain people. That's part of why people use the Fediverse and don't use Twitter.

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                        @gobsmacked @benroyce I agree that authoritarianism and political violence should not be covered up. But I’m not convinced that there’s a dichotomy between denying or covering up fascist acts and broadcasting fascist acts to everyone. Does every person need to know the details of fascist acts? I would like to allow people to be able to opt out of reading or viewing material that they personally deem to be distressing, as much as possible and acknowledging that it might not be possible for an individual to avoid seeing every thing that is distressing to them.
                        Personally I think hashtags and filters work better for this purpose, as the receiver can opt out reasonably easily, but I think that the Fediverse has settled in content warnings as a default method.

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                        • ig πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆI ig πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

                          @benroyce @crow i think there is a significant and unjustified shifting of blame going on when people say that normal posts have 'caused' panic attacks, nightmares, and so on.

                          non-extreme posts are not the primary cause of mental health tailspins. a picture of a sandwich does not 'cause' someone to spiral into an eating disorder relapse. if something so innocuous sets that person off, they were already on the brink, and it's unfair to blame the sandwich poster for severe mental health issues that were actually caused by something else.

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                          @ignova @benroyce @crow

                          If I can prevent setting a person off by adding a CW, I'll gladly do that~

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