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  • Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS Hippo Giraffe Covfefe

    @dacig @cstross I always get a semi hysterical giggle when I hear one of them say we need to build an AGI to save us from climate change. You know what it would say if it came to life tomorrow? Build a ton of solar, wind and batteries and electrify transport and industry.

    We have the answer *already*.

    Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D This user is from outside of this forum
    Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D This user is from outside of this forum
    Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪
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    @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
    Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

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    • Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪

      @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
      Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
      Charlie Stross
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      @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

        GraydonG This user is from outside of this forum
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        Graydon
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        @cstross Agriculture, minimally anything resembling field agriculture, is one with Thebes the Golden. (No, not yet, but sure as death.)

        Alternative food supply is essential, and direct synthesis isn't (likely) everything but it's an awful lot.

        @dacig @Salty

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          @ratsnakegames

          Start here: https://accelerating.org/articles/comingtechsingularity

          Then continue (jumping forward 30 years): https://www.dair-institute.org/projects/tescreal/

          OldCoderO This user is from outside of this forum
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          Or perhaps the following may be relevant:
          https://garethstack.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/accelerando.pdf
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          • Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪

            @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
            Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

            Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
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            Hippo Giraffe Covfefe
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            @dacig @cstross Carbon Capture: Profiting from the solution to a problem you profited from causing. How could oil companies not love it?

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

              Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
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              Hippo Giraffe Covfefe
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              @cstross @dacig The problem I see with biofuels and related solutions in widespread use is that in practice what will happen is that we will cut down more forests and switch from farming food in order to farm for biofuels, thus making all our problems worse.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                The singularity has been cancelled.

                What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

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                @cstross Spamularity(tm)!

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                • Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS Hippo Giraffe Covfefe

                  @cstross @dacig The problem I see with biofuels and related solutions in widespread use is that in practice what will happen is that we will cut down more forests and switch from farming food in order to farm for biofuels, thus making all our problems worse.

                  Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #32

                  @Salty @dacig The direct synthesis of starch via this pathway IS NOT A BIOFUEL. It's direct chemosynthesis. An entirely different category of thing.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                    The singularity has been cancelled.

                    What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                    Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                    StevenSavage (he/him)S This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @cstross taking from @pluralistic - it's the Enshitularity.

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      @Salty @dacig The direct synthesis of starch via this pathway IS NOT A BIOFUEL. It's direct chemosynthesis. An entirely different category of thing.

                      Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪
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                      #34

                      @cstross @Salty Let me introduce you a little known tech that has been running for 2.5 billion years, self assembles, is very cheap with several billiion trained technicians that can steer it:
                      🌱
                      I really don't think that if starches are a CC solution, we would need for high temp, high pressure, mineral hungry, crude PV chemsynth solutions from cockey monkeys.

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                        The singularity has been cancelled.

                        What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                        Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                        Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)O This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)
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                        #35

                        @cstross Look on the bright side ... and tell me what it is when you've found it.

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