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  • Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪

    @cstross Maybe if we build enough data centers we can have the singularity, and just before the atmosphere and us burst into flames it will give an answer to life, the universe and everything. I can't wait.

    Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    Hippo Giraffe Covfefe
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    #18

    @dacig @cstross I always get a semi hysterical giggle when I hear one of them say we need to build an AGI to save us from climate change. You know what it would say if it came to life tomorrow? Build a ton of solar, wind and batteries and electrify transport and industry.

    We have the answer *already*.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

      The singularity has been cancelled.

      What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

      Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

      Irenes (many)I This user is from outside of this forum
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      Irenes (many)
      wrote last edited by
      #19

      @cstross we were all primed by a hundred years of fiction to expect one specific course of events... and now a lot of people are convinced it's happening even though reality doesn't match up 😞

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

        The singularity has been cancelled.

        What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

        Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

        Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
        Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
        Angus McIntyre
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        #20

        @cstross Slopocolypse now

        (or Spamageddon, if you prefer)

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        • Angus McIntyreA Angus McIntyre

          @cstross Slopocolypse now

          (or Spamageddon, if you prefer)

          Chao-c'X This user is from outside of this forum
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          Chao-c'
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          #21

          @cstross @angusm let's compromise on slopularity. This could be realy popular buzzword 😉

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

            The singularity has been cancelled.

            What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

            Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

            GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
            GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
            GhostOnTheHalfShell
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            @cstross

            No, no no no no no no.. This is the singularity.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

              The singularity has been cancelled.

              What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

              Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

              U This user is from outside of this forum
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              unkx
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              #23

              @cstross This is the singularity we bought from Temu.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                The singularity has been cancelled.

                What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                Karl SchroederK This user is from outside of this forum
                Karl SchroederK This user is from outside of this forum
                Karl Schroeder
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                @cstross
                Which runs on the Antinet.

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                • Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS Hippo Giraffe Covfefe

                  @dacig @cstross I always get a semi hysterical giggle when I hear one of them say we need to build an AGI to save us from climate change. You know what it would say if it came to life tomorrow? Build a ton of solar, wind and batteries and electrify transport and industry.

                  We have the answer *already*.

                  Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D This user is from outside of this forum
                  Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D This user is from outside of this forum
                  Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪
                  wrote last edited by
                  #25

                  @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
                  Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

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                  • Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪

                    @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
                    Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

                    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #26

                    @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

                      GraydonG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Graydon
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                      #27

                      @cstross Agriculture, minimally anything resembling field agriculture, is one with Thebes the Golden. (No, not yet, but sure as death.)

                      Alternative food supply is essential, and direct synthesis isn't (likely) everything but it's an awful lot.

                      @dacig @Salty

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        @ratsnakegames

                        Start here: https://accelerating.org/articles/comingtechsingularity

                        Then continue (jumping forward 30 years): https://www.dair-institute.org/projects/tescreal/

                        OldCoderO This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #28
                        Or perhaps the following may be relevant:
                        https://garethstack.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/accelerando.pdf
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                        • Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪

                          @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
                          Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

                          Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Hippo Giraffe Covfefe
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                          @dacig @cstross Carbon Capture: Profiting from the solution to a problem you profited from causing. How could oil companies not love it?

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

                            Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #30

                            @cstross @dacig The problem I see with biofuels and related solutions in widespread use is that in practice what will happen is that we will cut down more forests and switch from farming food in order to farm for biofuels, thus making all our problems worse.

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                              The singularity has been cancelled.

                              What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                              Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                              TwotiredT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Twotired
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                              @cstross Spamularity(tm)!

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                              • Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS Hippo Giraffe Covfefe

                                @cstross @dacig The problem I see with biofuels and related solutions in widespread use is that in practice what will happen is that we will cut down more forests and switch from farming food in order to farm for biofuels, thus making all our problems worse.

                                Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                                Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                                Charlie Stross
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                                #32

                                @Salty @dacig The direct synthesis of starch via this pathway IS NOT A BIOFUEL. It's direct chemosynthesis. An entirely different category of thing.

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                                  The singularity has been cancelled.

                                  What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                                  Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                                  StevenSavage (he/him)S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  StevenSavage (he/him)
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                                  @cstross taking from @pluralistic - it's the Enshitularity.

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    @Salty @dacig The direct synthesis of starch via this pathway IS NOT A BIOFUEL. It's direct chemosynthesis. An entirely different category of thing.

                                    Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪D This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Juan Per¢ent,🇲🇽 🍉,🇻🇪
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                                    #34

                                    @cstross @Salty Let me introduce you a little known tech that has been running for 2.5 billion years, self assembles, is very cheap with several billiion trained technicians that can steer it:
                                    🌱
                                    I really don't think that if starches are a CC solution, we would need for high temp, high pressure, mineral hungry, crude PV chemsynth solutions from cockey monkeys.

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                                      The singularity has been cancelled.

                                      What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                                      Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                                      Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)O This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)O This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)
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                                      @cstross Look on the bright side ... and tell me what it is when you've found it.

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