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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

    The singularity has been cancelled.

    What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

    Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

    Thomas ThomassenO This user is from outside of this forum
    Thomas ThomassenO This user is from outside of this forum
    Thomas Thomassen
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    @cstross Neil Stephenson's The Diamond Age comes to mind... πŸ™ˆ

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    • Ratsnake Games πŸ”žR Ratsnake Games πŸ”ž

      @cstross i'll be honest: i still have no idea what the singularity is supposed to be

      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
      Charlie Stross
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      #16

      @ratsnakegames

      Start here: https://accelerating.org/articles/comingtechsingularity

      Then continue (jumping forward 30 years): https://www.dair-institute.org/projects/tescreal/

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

        The singularity has been cancelled.

        What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

        Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

        Philip RowlandsA This user is from outside of this forum
        Philip RowlandsA This user is from outside of this forum
        Philip Rowlands
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        #17

        @cstross I'm currently working on a game where the antagonists are a cult of spammers for whom clogging the Internet with spam is a sacred duty.

        A dumb idea that I originally came up with a decade ago, but it doesn't seem all that implausible any more 😞

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        • Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺD Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺ

          @cstross Maybe if we build enough data centers we can have the singularity, and just before the atmosphere and us burst into flames it will give an answer to life, the universe and everything. I can't wait.

          Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
          Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
          Hippo Giraffe Covfefe
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          #18

          @dacig @cstross I always get a semi hysterical giggle when I hear one of them say we need to build an AGI to save us from climate change. You know what it would say if it came to life tomorrow? Build a ton of solar, wind and batteries and electrify transport and industry.

          We have the answer *already*.

          Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺD 1 Reply Last reply
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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

            The singularity has been cancelled.

            What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

            Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

            Irenes (many)I This user is from outside of this forum
            Irenes (many)I This user is from outside of this forum
            Irenes (many)
            wrote last edited by
            #19

            @cstross we were all primed by a hundred years of fiction to expect one specific course of events... and now a lot of people are convinced it's happening even though reality doesn't match up 😞

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

              The singularity has been cancelled.

              What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

              Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

              Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
              Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
              Angus McIntyre
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              #20

              @cstross Slopocolypse now

              (or Spamageddon, if you prefer)

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              • Angus McIntyreA Angus McIntyre

                @cstross Slopocolypse now

                (or Spamageddon, if you prefer)

                Chao-c'X This user is from outside of this forum
                Chao-c'X This user is from outside of this forum
                Chao-c'
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                #21

                @cstross @angusm let's compromise on slopularity. This could be realy popular buzzword πŸ˜‰

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                  The singularity has been cancelled.

                  What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                  Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                  GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
                  GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
                  GhostOnTheHalfShell
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                  #22

                  @cstross

                  No, no no no no no no.. This is the singularity.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                    The singularity has been cancelled.

                    What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                    Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                    U This user is from outside of this forum
                    U This user is from outside of this forum
                    unkx
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                    #23

                    @cstross This is the singularity we bought from Temu.

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                      The singularity has been cancelled.

                      What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                      Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                      Karl SchroederK This user is from outside of this forum
                      Karl SchroederK This user is from outside of this forum
                      Karl Schroeder
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                      #24

                      @cstross
                      Which runs on the Antinet.

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                      • Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS Hippo Giraffe Covfefe

                        @dacig @cstross I always get a semi hysterical giggle when I hear one of them say we need to build an AGI to save us from climate change. You know what it would say if it came to life tomorrow? Build a ton of solar, wind and batteries and electrify transport and industry.

                        We have the answer *already*.

                        Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺD This user is from outside of this forum
                        Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺD This user is from outside of this forum
                        Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺ
                        wrote last edited by
                        #25

                        @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
                        Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

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                        • Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺD Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺ

                          @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
                          Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

                          Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Charlie Stross
                          wrote last edited by
                          #26

                          @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

                            GraydonG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Graydon
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                            @cstross Agriculture, minimally anything resembling field agriculture, is one with Thebes the Golden. (No, not yet, but sure as death.)

                            Alternative food supply is essential, and direct synthesis isn't (likely) everything but it's an awful lot.

                            @dacig @Salty

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              @ratsnakegames

                              Start here: https://accelerating.org/articles/comingtechsingularity

                              Then continue (jumping forward 30 years): https://www.dair-institute.org/projects/tescreal/

                              OldCoderO This user is from outside of this forum
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                              OldCoder
                              wrote last edited by
                              #28
                              Or perhaps the following may be relevant:
                              https://garethstack.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/accelerando.pdf
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                              • Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺD Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺ

                                @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
                                Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

                                Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
                                Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
                                Hippo Giraffe Covfefe
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                                #29

                                @dacig @cstross Carbon Capture: Profiting from the solution to a problem you profited from causing. How could oil companies not love it?

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

                                  Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Hippo Giraffe Covfefe
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                                  #30

                                  @cstross @dacig The problem I see with biofuels and related solutions in widespread use is that in practice what will happen is that we will cut down more forests and switch from farming food in order to farm for biofuels, thus making all our problems worse.

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                                    The singularity has been cancelled.

                                    What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                                    Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                                    TwotiredT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    TwotiredT This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Twotired
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                                    #31

                                    @cstross Spamularity(tm)!

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                                    • Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS Hippo Giraffe Covfefe

                                      @cstross @dacig The problem I see with biofuels and related solutions in widespread use is that in practice what will happen is that we will cut down more forests and switch from farming food in order to farm for biofuels, thus making all our problems worse.

                                      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Charlie Stross
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                                      @Salty @dacig The direct synthesis of starch via this pathway IS NOT A BIOFUEL. It's direct chemosynthesis. An entirely different category of thing.

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                                        The singularity has been cancelled.

                                        What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                                        Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                                        StevenSavage (he/him)S This user is from outside of this forum
                                        StevenSavage (he/him)S This user is from outside of this forum
                                        StevenSavage (he/him)
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #33

                                        @cstross taking from @pluralistic - it's the Enshitularity.

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          @Salty @dacig The direct synthesis of starch via this pathway IS NOT A BIOFUEL. It's direct chemosynthesis. An entirely different category of thing.

                                          Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺD This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺD This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Juan PerΒ’ent,πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ πŸ‰,πŸ‡»πŸ‡ͺ
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #34

                                          @cstross @Salty Let me introduce you a little known tech that has been running for 2.5 billion years, self assembles, is very cheap with several billiion trained technicians that can steer it:
                                          🌱
                                          I really don't think that if starches are a CC solution, we would need for high temp, high pressure, mineral hungry, crude PV chemsynth solutions from cockey monkeys.

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