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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

    The singularity has been cancelled.

    What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

    Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

    Philip RowlandsA This user is from outside of this forum
    Philip RowlandsA This user is from outside of this forum
    Philip Rowlands
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    #17

    @cstross I'm currently working on a game where the antagonists are a cult of spammers for whom clogging the Internet with spam is a sacred duty.

    A dumb idea that I originally came up with a decade ago, but it doesn't seem all that implausible any more ๐Ÿ˜ž

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    • Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ชD Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ช

      @cstross Maybe if we build enough data centers we can have the singularity, and just before the atmosphere and us burst into flames it will give an answer to life, the universe and everything. I can't wait.

      Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
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      Hippo Giraffe Covfefe
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      #18

      @dacig @cstross I always get a semi hysterical giggle when I hear one of them say we need to build an AGI to save us from climate change. You know what it would say if it came to life tomorrow? Build a ton of solar, wind and batteries and electrify transport and industry.

      We have the answer *already*.

      Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ชD 1 Reply Last reply
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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

        The singularity has been cancelled.

        What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

        Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

        Irenes (many)I This user is from outside of this forum
        Irenes (many)I This user is from outside of this forum
        Irenes (many)
        wrote last edited by
        #19

        @cstross we were all primed by a hundred years of fiction to expect one specific course of events... and now a lot of people are convinced it's happening even though reality doesn't match up ๐Ÿ˜ž

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

          The singularity has been cancelled.

          What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

          Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

          Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
          Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
          Angus McIntyre
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          #20

          @cstross Slopocolypse now

          (or Spamageddon, if you prefer)

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          • Angus McIntyreA Angus McIntyre

            @cstross Slopocolypse now

            (or Spamageddon, if you prefer)

            Chao-c'X This user is from outside of this forum
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            Chao-c'
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            @cstross @angusm let's compromise on slopularity. This could be realy popular buzzword ๐Ÿ˜‰

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

              The singularity has been cancelled.

              What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

              Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

              GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
              GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
              GhostOnTheHalfShell
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              #22

              @cstross

              No, no no no no no no.. This is the singularity.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                The singularity has been cancelled.

                What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                U This user is from outside of this forum
                U This user is from outside of this forum
                unkx
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                @cstross This is the singularity we bought from Temu.

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                  The singularity has been cancelled.

                  What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                  Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                  Karl SchroederK This user is from outside of this forum
                  Karl SchroederK This user is from outside of this forum
                  Karl Schroeder
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                  @cstross
                  Which runs on the Antinet.

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                  • Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS Hippo Giraffe Covfefe

                    @dacig @cstross I always get a semi hysterical giggle when I hear one of them say we need to build an AGI to save us from climate change. You know what it would say if it came to life tomorrow? Build a ton of solar, wind and batteries and electrify transport and industry.

                    We have the answer *already*.

                    Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ชD This user is from outside of this forum
                    Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ชD This user is from outside of this forum
                    Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ช
                    wrote last edited by
                    #25

                    @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
                    Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

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                    • Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ชD Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ช

                      @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
                      Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

                      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #26

                      @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

                        GraydonG This user is from outside of this forum
                        GraydonG This user is from outside of this forum
                        Graydon
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                        #27

                        @cstross Agriculture, minimally anything resembling field agriculture, is one with Thebes the Golden. (No, not yet, but sure as death.)

                        Alternative food supply is essential, and direct synthesis isn't (likely) everything but it's an awful lot.

                        @dacig @Salty

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          @ratsnakegames

                          Start here: https://accelerating.org/articles/comingtechsingularity

                          Then continue (jumping forward 30 years): https://www.dair-institute.org/projects/tescreal/

                          OldCoderO This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Or perhaps the following may be relevant:
                          https://garethstack.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/accelerando.pdf
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                          • Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ชD Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ช

                            @Salty @cstross Technofixes are a way to move capitalism forward fast, so we don't have time to ask the right questions. Much less finding the right answers.
                            Carbon capture is my other favorite world wreacking technofix.

                            Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Hippo Giraffe Covfefe
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                            @dacig @cstross Carbon Capture: Profiting from the solution to a problem you profited from causing. How could oil companies not love it?

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              @dacig @Salty Starch, however, is *useful*. It fixes atmospheric carbon, is stable at ambient pressure/temperature without compression, is a dense energy store, and can be turned into hexoses or fed to animals or single-celled organisms. If you can make it using PV panels on agriculturally marginal land (eg. in deserts) that's a huge win.

                              Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Hippo Giraffe Covfefe
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                              @cstross @dacig The problem I see with biofuels and related solutions in widespread use is that in practice what will happen is that we will cut down more forests and switch from farming food in order to farm for biofuels, thus making all our problems worse.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                                The singularity has been cancelled.

                                What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                                Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                                TwotiredT This user is from outside of this forum
                                TwotiredT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @cstross Spamularity(tm)!

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                                • Hippo Giraffe CovfefeS Hippo Giraffe Covfefe

                                  @cstross @dacig The problem I see with biofuels and related solutions in widespread use is that in practice what will happen is that we will cut down more forests and switch from farming food in order to farm for biofuels, thus making all our problems worse.

                                  Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Charlie Stross
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                                  @Salty @dacig The direct synthesis of starch via this pathway IS NOT A BIOFUEL. It's direct chemosynthesis. An entirely different category of thing.

                                  Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ชD 1 Reply Last reply
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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                                    The singularity has been cancelled.

                                    What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                                    Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                                    StevenSavage (he/him)S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @cstross taking from @pluralistic - it's the Enshitularity.

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      @Salty @dacig The direct synthesis of starch via this pathway IS NOT A BIOFUEL. It's direct chemosynthesis. An entirely different category of thing.

                                      Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ชD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Juan Perยขent,๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ ๐Ÿ‰,๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ช
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #34

                                      @cstross @Salty Let me introduce you a little known tech that has been running for 2.5 billion years, self assembles, is very cheap with several billiion trained technicians that can steer it:
                                      ๐ŸŒฑ
                                      I really don't think that if starches are a CC solution, we would need for high temp, high pressure, mineral hungry, crude PV chemsynth solutions from cockey monkeys.

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:

                                        The singularity has been cancelled.

                                        What we're getting is wall to wall spam generators, optimized for passing the (modified) Turing test and convincing gullible humans that they are "intelligent".

                                        Instead of the singularity, we are getting the spamularity.

                                        Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)O This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Curtis "Ovid" Poe (he/him)
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                                        #35

                                        @cstross Look on the bright side ... and tell me what it is when you've found it.

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