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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • Viktoria D. Richards/UddelhexeV Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe

    @Preuk @fdroidorg @marcprux

    Can you give me a link where you contacted in the EU and how? I am a bit overwhelmed on where to report my concerns.

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    F-Droid
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    @v_d_richards @Preuk https://keepandroidopen.org/ ?

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    • Viktoria D. Richards/UddelhexeV Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe

      @fdroidorg @marcprux

      Does anyone know how this affects phones that already have F-Droid and apps from there installed?

      Will some Android/Google Update make them stop working all of a sudden? Or not let me update them anymore? Or will this affect only future Android versions?

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      F-Droid
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      #89

      @v_d_richards No info on that, no info on anything actually.

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      • Simx72S Simx72

        @fdroidorg @marcprux will this affect lineage phones? (or any other roms)

        Directly or indirectly?

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        #90

        @simx72 Custom Android distros can and do choose to free their users from such shackles.

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        • F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @nathanael @GrapheneOS Custom Android distros are not affected because they care about the freedom of their users.

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          • oldherlO oldherl

            @fdroidorg@floss.social I live in China. We don't have representatives to contact. Even Google doesn't provide service to users here directly. Please do NOT show the useless header to users from China. I love F-Droid and FOSS in general but the header would be useless and annoying.

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            @oldherl The little X will dismiss it, if annoying 😛

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            • F-DroidF F-Droid

              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

              Thank you for your support!

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              wrote last edited by
              #93

              @Framasoft est- ce que çà concerne uniquement l'Os Android "Google"? Ou est-ce que ce sera valable pour toures les version Android " degoogleisées" comme lineageOs ou /e/os par exemple ?

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              • F-DroidF F-Droid

                @nathanael @GrapheneOS Custom Android distros are not affected because they care about the freedom of their users.

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                #94

                @fdroidorg not sure i get what you're saying. we shouldn't support grapheneos cause they are not affected?!

                Support These Projects
                These projects are working to provide much-needed competition in the mobile hardware space.

                cc @GrapheneOS

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                • nathanaelN nathanael

                  @fdroidorg not sure i get what you're saying. we shouldn't support grapheneos cause they are not affected?!

                  Support These Projects
                  These projects are working to provide much-needed competition in the mobile hardware space.

                  cc @GrapheneOS

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                  #95

                  @nathanael @GrapheneOS We should be allies in the Android ecosystem (specially during these days) but they choose to be frenemies for some reason.

                  Fun fact: We talked with more GOS users at FOSDEM than stock Android users. 🤔

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                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                    @nathanael @GrapheneOS We should be allies in the Android ecosystem (specially during these days) but they choose to be frenemies for some reason.

                    Fun fact: We talked with more GOS users at FOSDEM than stock Android users. 🤔

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                    #96

                    @fdroidorg because they decided to be enemies you don't list them? this is childish. they might have an opinion you don't like. so what? get over it. saying this:

                    These projects are working to provide much-needed competition in the mobile hardware space.

                    and not listing grapheneos makes you the bad guys in my book...

                    @GrapheneOS

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                    • Jaycosm🔆J Jaycosm🔆

                      @fdroidorg @marcprux

                      If Google doesn't want to place nice, I suppose we have options...

                      Huawei HarmonyOS: https://www.harmonyos.com/en/
                      Samsung TizenOS: https://samsungtizenos.com/

                      Perhaps an Android exodus would scare Google enough to backtrack on the registration agenda.

                      #KeepAndroidOpen

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                      Martin
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                      #97

                      @jay @fdroidorg @marcprux Yes, but all the Tizen products shown are ones that are NOT phones, and are hard to install your own apps, like fridges, televisions, monitors, washing machines.....?

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                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

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                        Marcus
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                        #98

                        @fdroidorg @marcprux super chiant ce Google qui vérouile tout.

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                        • F-DroidF F-Droid

                          @v_d_richards @Preuk https://keepandroidopen.org/ ?

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                          @fdroidorg @Preuk

                          Thanks for the link

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                          • F-DroidF F-Droid

                            @v_d_richards @Preuk https://keepandroidopen.org/ ?

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                            Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe
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                            #100

                            @fdroidorg @Preuk

                            I still have problems to understand what happens with apps like those of fossify, or DuckDuckGo for example, that i downloaded and maintain over F-Droid, but that are also available on Playstore and thus should be under the "verified" category.

                            These should still work but not the F-Droid Store App itself so i need to update via a website manually???

                            I am not an IT person. I genuelly have problems understanding this, despite having read the infos i found so far.

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                            • Viktoria D. Richards/UddelhexeV Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe

                              @fdroidorg @Preuk

                              I still have problems to understand what happens with apps like those of fossify, or DuckDuckGo for example, that i downloaded and maintain over F-Droid, but that are also available on Playstore and thus should be under the "verified" category.

                              These should still work but not the F-Droid Store App itself so i need to update via a website manually???

                              I am not an IT person. I genuelly have problems understanding this, despite having read the infos i found so far.

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                              @v_d_richards If signed by the developer (reproducible) and the developer has submitted to the Google pressure, the app will work fine.

                              If signed by F-Droid, we think they will not work at all, not even our Client, so we will not be able to provide updates.

                              For those apps already on Play you will submit to Google's rules and use Play, right?

                              For those not on Play... good luck tracking the APK, if the developer bowed down.

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                              • Viktoria D. Richards/UddelhexeV Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe

                                @fdroidorg @Preuk

                                Thanks for the link

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                                liarsworld
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                                @v_d_richards
                                Abwarten was im September kommt. Kurz vorher allen noch vorhandenen Apps aus dem Playstore ein Update über den Aurorastore verabreichen.
                                Ich bin mal gespannt ob Chuuchel wirklich ihr Android dichtmachen und ob dann rechtliche Schritte von der EU folgen.
                                Ich habe im Moment den Eindruck, die usanistanischen Unternehmen versuchen ihr Geschäftsgebaren mit Rückendeckung der Administration (evtl. Sanktionen o.ä.) gegen die EU durchzusetzen.
                                Es bleibt spannend.

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                                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                  @v_d_richards If signed by the developer (reproducible) and the developer has submitted to the Google pressure, the app will work fine.

                                  If signed by F-Droid, we think they will not work at all, not even our Client, so we will not be able to provide updates.

                                  For those apps already on Play you will submit to Google's rules and use Play, right?

                                  For those not on Play... good luck tracking the APK, if the developer bowed down.

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                                  @fdroidorg

                                  I hated Google before, but do more every day.

                                  I had hoped that if Apps and their developers took it on them to do the verification shit, loading and maintaining at least such apps from other places than PlayStore would be possible in Android.

                                  The users are trapped:
                                  Banking Apps and some others don' t work with Custom Roms.
                                  Open Source from free places will no longer work on G-Android.

                                  The only solution is havingntwo devices which is expensive af.

                                  I.hate.Google.so.much.

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                                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

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                                    @fdroidorg @barbarakathmann @kimvsparrentak

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                                    • MarcM Marc

                                      @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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                                      @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux You can check from https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438/235 if your bank is listed. All my banks work, but that of course don't say anything about your bank

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                                      • A Antti

                                        @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux You can check from https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438/235 if your bank is listed. All my banks work, but that of course don't say anything about your bank

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                                        @Antti98 @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Thank you! That link helped a lot! 😀

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                                        • MarcM Marc

                                          @Antti98 @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Thank you! That link helped a lot! 😀

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                                          @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux glad to hear! Out of interest was your bank reported to be working?

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