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  • Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏A Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏

    @greenpartyni @martinvermeer I'm involved in volunteer organizations, believe me I know the challenges. Still, two years to drop the platform owned by a guy who offered us a Nazi salute? Yeah, my sarcasm stands.

    Now I'll forgive you still having X and FB on your website, that takes more work than an email vote on "should we drop X", composing a good-bye post, waiting a few months, and hitting the close account button.

    Fucking bitch Martin VermeerM This user is from outside of this forum
    Fucking bitch Martin VermeerM This user is from outside of this forum
    Fucking bitch Martin Vermeer
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    #63

    @alan @greenpartyni Still, they got there in the end.

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    • Fucking bitch Martin VermeerM Fucking bitch Martin Vermeer

      @alan @greenpartyni Still, they got there in the end.

      Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏A This user is from outside of this forum
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      Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏
      wrote on last edited by
      #64

      @martinvermeer @greenpartyni Oh yeah, better late than never 100%.

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      • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

        We’re leaving X.

        Not for clicks.
        Not for politics.
        For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

        We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

        But this is not an exit from the conversation.
        It’s a move to better spaces.

        Come with us.

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        Adam Jacobs 🇺🇦S This user is from outside of this forum
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        Adam Jacobs 🇺🇦
        wrote on last edited by
        #65

        @greenpartyni I am pleased to hear that. It's the right thing to do.

        While you're at it, any chance you could have a word with your friends in the Green Party of England and Wales? They seem to still be on Twitter, and, as you have realised, that's becoming rather hard to defend.

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        • Ray McCarthyR Ray McCarthy

          @greenpartyni Now ditch Threads & Facebook.
          Zukerberg isn't much better than Musk, though smarter.

          Jakub Klawiter :mastodon:W This user is from outside of this forum
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          Jakub Klawiter :mastodon:
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          #66

          @raymaccarthy
          It's still better to do it step by step than not doing at all…

          @greenpartyni

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          • Jakub Klawiter :mastodon:W Jakub Klawiter :mastodon:

            @raymaccarthy
            It's still better to do it step by step than not doing at all…

            @greenpartyni

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            Ray McCarthy
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            #67

            @wariat @greenpartyni
            Yes.

            And in N.I itself the UK institutionalised bigotry in the 1998 GFA. Only the parties declaring as "Unionist" and "Nationalist" can be in power (First Minister & Deputy Minister MUST come from those two.

            That is a big issue for the Greens and Alliance party. Getting seats is a first step for those parties. A region where in many places you need to put up Election posters late at night etc.

            Outsiders suffer bigotry from Nationalists, Republicans & worst Unionists.

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            • Nic DafisN Nic Dafis

              @greenpartyni this is going to be a niche space, at least for the foreseeable, but you will have a disproportionate level of engagement here, if you put a bit of time into it. Obviously, time is not a infinite resource, so good luck!

              Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
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              Green Party NI
              wrote on last edited by
              #68

              @nic We’ve been here for almost a full year now and you’re right, the engagement is disproportionate to the size of our audience here. We’re committed here for the long term (if I have anything to do with it!) as it really is the only truly independent non-corporate US option. Plus it’s filled with cool independently minded people. Including me on a personal account. 😆

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              • J.K.PirieJ J.K.Pirie

                @greenpartyni
                Since I (and many others ) figured this one out years ago we are already here
                So
                Welcome, what took you so long !😊

                Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #69

                @Jkp we’ve been here for a year already. We’re all volunteers with many public issues to speak to. We really only cross-posted to Twitter because NI journalists were still hanging on there. It wasn’t a priority as we didn’t pay it much attention. 🤗

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                • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                  You can find us and continue the conversation here:
                  Bluesky: greenpartyni.org
                  Instagram: greenpartyni
                  Facebook: GreenParty
                  Threads: greenpartyni
                  Mastodon: mastodon.ie/@greenpartyni
                  TikTok: greenpartyni
                  YouTube: greenpartynorthernireland
                  Reddit: greenpartyni
                  Website: greenpartyni.org

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                  #70

                  @greenpartyni that's great! I sure hope our french parties take the hint as well.

                  What's the next step? Get away from Zuckerberg medias? 😁

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                  • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                    We’re leaving X.

                    Not for clicks.
                    Not for politics.
                    For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

                    We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

                    But this is not an exit from the conversation.
                    It’s a move to better spaces.

                    Come with us.

                    1/2

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                    @FourQ ♿
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                    #71

                    @greenpartyni Changing socials is like using web forms for people to email you. You choose the format and what you need and will accept from them.
                    Using Mastodon is just publishing your new email address.

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                    • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                      We’re leaving X.

                      Not for clicks.
                      Not for politics.
                      For safety, democracy and basic responsibility.

                      We won’t stay on a platform that fails children, enables deepfake abuse and fuels disinformation.

                      But this is not an exit from the conversation.
                      It’s a move to better spaces.

                      Come with us.

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                      #72

                      @greenpartyni
                      For parties/institutions/govt depts/corps/countries etc. that wish to develop their own Fedi servers, I would suggest using X/BlueSky/Facebook/Insta/Threads etc. simply to replicate the *original* posts/threads on these servers. So all followers on those platforms know where to go to interact seriously.

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                      • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                        You can find us and continue the conversation here:
                        Bluesky: greenpartyni.org
                        Instagram: greenpartyni
                        Facebook: GreenParty
                        Threads: greenpartyni
                        Mastodon: mastodon.ie/@greenpartyni
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                        YouTube: greenpartynorthernireland
                        Reddit: greenpartyni
                        Website: greenpartyni.org

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                        Carlos Solís
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                        #73
                        Why are you remaining on Instagram, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok? Those, too, are either in danger of falling to the same vices as Twitter, or are already on the way there. Wouldn't it be better to convince people to join free social networks instead?
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                        • JimmyB (he/him)J JimmyB (he/him)

                          @noodlemaz I’d also point out that the line from GPNI is effectively ‘X is now so bad we can’t stay’.

                          Really? It took the latest outrage? Really?

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                          #74

                          @JimmyB @noodlemaz When you've worked hard to build a large following, to communicate a positive message, it's hard to throw that away. Optimists hope things will improve, that fascists will disappear into insignificance, as they have done before.

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                          • W Andy Wootton

                            @JimmyB @noodlemaz When you've worked hard to build a large following, to communicate a positive message, it's hard to throw that away. Optimists hope things will improve, that fascists will disappear into insignificance, as they have done before.

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                            #75

                            @noodlemaz @woo yeah - I understand and agree. Man - I’ve been plenty slow enough in my time to make changes which were needed. The original point I made was about the framing. Like - this really is a step too far…. Anyway…

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                            • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                              You can find us and continue the conversation here:
                              Bluesky: greenpartyni.org
                              Instagram: greenpartyni
                              Facebook: GreenParty
                              Threads: greenpartyni
                              Mastodon: mastodon.ie/@greenpartyni
                              TikTok: greenpartyni
                              YouTube: greenpartynorthernireland
                              Reddit: greenpartyni
                              Website: greenpartyni.org

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                              zaire the insane anarchistZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              zaire the insane anarchist
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                              @greenpartyni erm you know meta’s platforms explicitly allow abusers and racists and all sorts of disinformation right

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                              • zaire the insane anarchistZ zaire the insane anarchist

                                @greenpartyni erm you know meta’s platforms explicitly allow abusers and racists and all sorts of disinformation right

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                                Green Party NI
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                                #77

                                @zaire absolutely, but as a small political party we have to be where our voters are and potential voters. Sure, we’d like everyone to move to independent platforms like the Fediverse and dump US corporate media. But until that happens we’re stuck with an impossible choice - stay and inform & provoke for change, or leave and loose that important piece of influence. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                                • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                                  @zaire absolutely, but as a small political party we have to be where our voters are and potential voters. Sure, we’d like everyone to move to independent platforms like the Fediverse and dump US corporate media. But until that happens we’re stuck with an impossible choice - stay and inform & provoke for change, or leave and loose that important piece of influence. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                                  #78

                                  @greenpartyni @zaire
                                  But look at the response so far on that GPNI Twitter post - single-digit engagement metrics, and a couple of limp replies.

                                  It's doing decent numbers here, though, and presumably on the other platforms too.

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                                  • ikutursoI ikuturso

                                    @JimmyB @harri @noodlemaz Zuckerberg has certainly done a lot of bad through his companies but I don't think he is as extreme right-wing as Musk. You didn't see him campaign for the fascist in the White House, run an illegal operation aimed at purging federal institutions inside the administration, shape policies like offering asylum to white South Africans or actively propping up AfD in Germany etc.

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                                    @ikuturso @JimmyB @harri @noodlemaz
                                    Zuck was sitting with the rest of the techbro billionaires at the most recent POTUS inauguration.

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                                    • Dec [{(:no_ai:)}]D Dec [{(:no_ai:)}]

                                      @greenpartyni @zaire
                                      But look at the response so far on that GPNI Twitter post - single-digit engagement metrics, and a couple of limp replies.

                                      It's doing decent numbers here, though, and presumably on the other platforms too.

                                      Green Party NIG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Green Party NI
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                                      #80

                                      @dec23k @zaire It’s very clear to us that Musk throttles progressive voices like the Greens on XTwitter. The only way to try to counter that may be to pay for blue tick mark. And we would never do that!

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                                      • Dec [{(:no_ai:)}]D Dec [{(:no_ai:)}]

                                        @ikuturso @JimmyB @harri @noodlemaz
                                        Zuck was sitting with the rest of the techbro billionaires at the most recent POTUS inauguration.

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                                        JimmyB (he/him)
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                                        @dec23k @noodlemaz @harri @ikuturso yeah - exactly. I’m not discriminating between depths of fascism

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                                        • Green Party NIG Green Party NI

                                          @dec23k @zaire It’s very clear to us that Musk throttles progressive voices like the Greens on XTwitter. The only way to try to counter that may be to pay for blue tick mark. And we would never do that!

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                                          #82

                                          I was involved in the campaign to repeal the 8th amendment for a few years.
                                          When I wasn't collecting petition signatures at stalls or holding up one end of a banner or marching through Dublin or Belfast in the rain, a lot of campaigning was organised and done online, including on Twitter.
                                          (planning was done in-person or on Signal, for opsec).

                                          Some throttling of progressive voices was going on before 2022, but it got worse after the divorced dad walked into Twitter HQ with a kitchen sink.

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