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Do you know what's not accessible?

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  • JamesJ James

    @jonathanhogg I wonder what the origin story is?
    It feels like something someone wrote in a conference talk to crack a gag about making something over-trendy and unintentionally inaccessible.
    And people used it as a joke to each other so much that the funny wore off and it accidentally got adopted.

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    @jtruk @jonathanhogg the general form (a11y, i18n, k8s) has been around a while now.

    I think i18n came first, probably because it was easier than repeatedly having the "internationalisation vs internationalization" spelling debate...

    But I have seen it said that "k8s" was first because no one could remember how to spell (or pronounce) kubernetes?

    Either way, I absolutely hate that this has just become how the tech industry abbreviates things.

    It feels like it's on the "smug" side of clever

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    • lpbkdotnetL lpbkdotnet

      @jtruk @jonathanhogg the general form (a11y, i18n, k8s) has been around a while now.

      I think i18n came first, probably because it was easier than repeatedly having the "internationalisation vs internationalization" spelling debate...

      But I have seen it said that "k8s" was first because no one could remember how to spell (or pronounce) kubernetes?

      Either way, I absolutely hate that this has just become how the tech industry abbreviates things.

      It feels like it's on the "smug" side of clever

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      @lpbkdotnet @jtruk Wikipedia believes that i18n was coined in the 70s and is DEC's fault. Since humans read word-at-a-time by shape, I consider them all to be instances of "I am too lazy to type and therefore you will have to work harder to read"

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      • Jonathan HoggJ Jonathan Hogg

        @lpbkdotnet @jtruk Wikipedia believes that i18n was coined in the 70s and is DEC's fault. Since humans read word-at-a-time by shape, I consider them all to be instances of "I am too lazy to type and therefore you will have to work harder to read"

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        @jonathanhogg @lpbkdotnet None of this excludes 'a11y' being a joke that got out of hand. I think that's a pretty strong candidate here!

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        • Prof. Catherine FlickC Prof. Catherine Flick

          @jonathanhogg yes! I keep reading it as “ally”

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          @CatherineFlick @jonathanhogg me too! I’m glad I’m not the only one

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          • Jonathan HoggJ Jonathan Hogg

            Do you know what's not accessible? Writing "a11y" in any article or documentation

            I will accept it as a convenience in APIs since developers are lazy and can't spell, but fuck off with using it in text

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            @jonathanhogg I also had to look this up (apart from k8s since my brother works on calico, and it actually sounds vaguely like the actual word). So yeah, and as a system architect - no developers should not be using this shorthand in API's - developers should learn to f&^king spell and express themselves clearly in code/docs/etc or have their work QA'd by people who can 🙂

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            • Jonathan HoggJ Jonathan Hogg

              Do you know what's not accessible? Writing "a11y" in any article or documentation

              I will accept it as a convenience in APIs since developers are lazy and can't spell, but fuck off with using it in text

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              @jonathanhogg

              A8y! I c8y a3e!

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              • Jonathan HoggJ Jonathan Hogg

                @lpbkdotnet @jtruk Wikipedia believes that i18n was coined in the 70s and is DEC's fault. Since humans read word-at-a-time by shape, I consider them all to be instances of "I am too lazy to type and therefore you will have to work harder to read"

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                @jonathanhogg @lpbkdotnet @jtruk But it helps sometimes: try to go a interoperability meeting and you'll see why saying "i14y" is much more pratical.

                Whatever the case, in my texts I always put an abbreviation with the expanded term right in the beginning. If it's seldom used, I only write the expanded form.

                #writing #abbreviations

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                • Zoe Taylor :v_trans: :v_pan: :verified420:T Zoe Taylor :v_trans: :v_pan: :verified420:

                  @CatherineFlick @jonathanhogg me too! I’m glad I’m not the only one

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                  @themediumkahuna Oh, does it not? Even knowing it references accessibility, I still assumed it was to be read as "ally."

                  I hereby declare its use even dumber than I thought.
                  @CatherineFlick @jonathanhogg

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                  • Jonathan HoggJ Jonathan Hogg

                    Do you know what's not accessible? Writing "a11y" in any article or documentation

                    I will accept it as a convenience in APIs since developers are lazy and can't spell, but fuck off with using it in text

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                    @jonathanhogg

                    "But it looks like ally, it's great"

                    Fuck you Jean-Eude. People should not do gatekeeping for something that important.

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                    • gnateG gnate

                      @themediumkahuna Oh, does it not? Even knowing it references accessibility, I still assumed it was to be read as "ally."

                      I hereby declare its use even dumber than I thought.
                      @CatherineFlick @jonathanhogg

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                      @themediumkahuna
                      'xsablt' would even make more sense...
                      @CatherineFlick @jonathanhogg

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                      • Jonathan HoggJ Jonathan Hogg

                        Do you know what's not accessible? Writing "a11y" in any article or documentation

                        I will accept it as a convenience in APIs since developers are lazy and can't spell, but fuck off with using it in text

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                        @jonathanhogg someone wrote a brilliant post about that:

                        https://chitter.xyz/@Vordus/113587948938149310

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