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  • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

    @raymaccarthy @n_dimension
    Not a problem. AI will solve it 😜

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    wrote last edited by
    #28

    @AkaSci @n_dimension
    You need to adjust your clothing!

    That's fierce sarcasm that's exposed!

    AI might, but we have no idea how to make an AI. The LLM/Generative "AI" are statistical plagiarism machines. More useful mis-named Machine learning is simply curated databases and pattern matching, with rules created by experts.

    Scrape the Internet and you end up with regurgitated "Grokipedia", a NAZIfied version of Wikipedia, and a bunch on random nonsense.

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    • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

      New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

      # of sats: up to 1 million!
      Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
      Cooling: radiative
      Schedule: unspecified
      Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
      Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

      There goes the neighborhood.
      Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

      @sundogplanets
      https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
      https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
      1/n

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      wrote last edited by
      #29

      @AkaSci @sundogplanets

      What happens if the command to 'hurtle towards the earth in a fiery rain' is pushed to the network?

      Does Musk become a God in fact?

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      • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

        New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

        # of sats: up to 1 million!
        Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
        Cooling: radiative
        Schedule: unspecified
        Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
        Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

        There goes the neighborhood.
        Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

        @sundogplanets
        https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
        https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
        1/n

        MiraM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #30

        @AkaSci @sundogplanets At this point in human history, having the Kessler Syndrome occur just might not be the worst thing

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        • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

          A blunt assessment of "AI datacenters in space” by Prof. Matthew Buckley in Dec 2025 -

          "To be blunt, the entire stupid idea is a giant middle finger to multiple fundamentals of physics, and the fact that it is apparently being taken seriously by our tech lords, mainstream journalism, and political leaders is a damning indictment of not just the ridiculous amount of money chasing bad ideas in the tech/LLM/hype sector that has eaten the American economy, ..."

          https://www.physicsmatt.com/blog/2025/12/11/the-dumbest-thing-ive-seen-this-week
          4/n

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          #31

          @AkaSci but hey, think of all that random bit flipping you’d get from the cosmic radiation. A whole new flavor of stochastic gradient descent! lol

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          • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

            New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

            # of sats: up to 1 million!
            Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
            Cooling: radiative
            Schedule: unspecified
            Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
            Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

            There goes the neighborhood.
            Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

            @sundogplanets
            https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
            https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
            1/n

            Joseph LordJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #32

            @AkaSci @sundogplanets One of the dumbest things I ever heard. How do you cool a data centre in a vacuum? Somehow get the heat to the outside and try to radiate it? Must be possible to workout the maths for radiating heat. I wonder how long it would take to earn back the energy taken to get it into space in the first place.

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            • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

              A blunt assessment of "AI datacenters in space” by Prof. Matthew Buckley in Dec 2025 -

              "To be blunt, the entire stupid idea is a giant middle finger to multiple fundamentals of physics, and the fact that it is apparently being taken seriously by our tech lords, mainstream journalism, and political leaders is a damning indictment of not just the ridiculous amount of money chasing bad ideas in the tech/LLM/hype sector that has eaten the American economy, ..."

              https://www.physicsmatt.com/blog/2025/12/11/the-dumbest-thing-ive-seen-this-week
              4/n

              F This user is from outside of this forum
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              #33

              @AkaSci how will they launch the sysops?

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              • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

                # of sats: up to 1 million!
                Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
                Cooling: radiative
                Schedule: unspecified
                Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
                Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

                There goes the neighborhood.
                Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

                @sundogplanets
                https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
                https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
                1/n

                Kingsley Bugarin PLY OAM 🇦🇺K This user is from outside of this forum
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                Kingsley Bugarin PLY OAM 🇦🇺
                wrote last edited by
                #34

                @AkaSci

                Let's ignore the reality that orbital data centres are bullshit for hundreds of reasons and assume ketamine boy can pull it off.

                This site lists the sizes and masses of starlink satellites. I'm going to use the V2 full size specs. 40m^2 fully deployed and 1,250kg.

                https://dishycentral.com/how-big-are-starlink-satellites

                The orbital decay times for unboosted satellites with those specs at different altitudes are;

                500km - 5.68 years
                600km - 47.02 years
                700km - 303.73 years
                800km - 1,536.21 years
                900km - 6,112.47 years
                1,000km - 19,255.79 years

                Orbital decay calculator here;

                https://www.lizard-tail.com/isana/lab/orbital_decay/

                Data centres at higher altitudes better be built to last because they are not coming back down any time soon.

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                • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                  A blunt assessment of "AI datacenters in space” by Prof. Matthew Buckley in Dec 2025 -

                  "To be blunt, the entire stupid idea is a giant middle finger to multiple fundamentals of physics, and the fact that it is apparently being taken seriously by our tech lords, mainstream journalism, and political leaders is a damning indictment of not just the ridiculous amount of money chasing bad ideas in the tech/LLM/hype sector that has eaten the American economy, ..."

                  https://www.physicsmatt.com/blog/2025/12/11/the-dumbest-thing-ive-seen-this-week
                  4/n

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                  #35

                  @AkaSci well, there's this simple solution, although unpopular because ICE exists: arrest that south african illegal immigrant and NEVER let him go. Problem solved.

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                  • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                    A blunt assessment of "AI datacenters in space” by Prof. Matthew Buckley in Dec 2025 -

                    "To be blunt, the entire stupid idea is a giant middle finger to multiple fundamentals of physics, and the fact that it is apparently being taken seriously by our tech lords, mainstream journalism, and political leaders is a damning indictment of not just the ridiculous amount of money chasing bad ideas in the tech/LLM/hype sector that has eaten the American economy, ..."

                    https://www.physicsmatt.com/blog/2025/12/11/the-dumbest-thing-ive-seen-this-week
                    4/n

                    AkaSci 🛰️A This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #36

                    Another good article by a former NASA engineer/scientist on why "Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea."

                    "This is an absolutely terrible idea, and really makes zero sense whatsoever. There are multiple reasons for this, but they all amount to saying that the kind of electronics needed to make a datacenter work, particularly a datacenter deploying AI capacity in the form of GPUs and TPUs, is exactly the opposite of what works in space."

                    https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/
                    5/n

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                    • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                      A blunt assessment of "AI datacenters in space” by Prof. Matthew Buckley in Dec 2025 -

                      "To be blunt, the entire stupid idea is a giant middle finger to multiple fundamentals of physics, and the fact that it is apparently being taken seriously by our tech lords, mainstream journalism, and political leaders is a damning indictment of not just the ridiculous amount of money chasing bad ideas in the tech/LLM/hype sector that has eaten the American economy, ..."

                      https://www.physicsmatt.com/blog/2025/12/11/the-dumbest-thing-ive-seen-this-week
                      4/n

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                      #37

                      @AkaSci As much as I think the current Data Center Boom (TM) is a massive bubble that will end badly with a LOT of bag holders, if we really really needed *that much* compute we have plenty of cold surface area that just needs "bring heavy things and folks in and out" infrastructure.

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