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  • Marco ArmentM Marco Arment

    "Updating", huh? What a word choice. I wonder in which direction it's updating!

    Kevin P. FlemingK This user is from outside of this forum
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    Kevin P. Fleming
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    #54

    @marcoarment Very similar to 'updating our privacy policy' or 'updating our subscription terms'. This passive-voice crap really needs to be shot into the sun.

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    • KurtG Kurt

      @marcoarment just got this today too. lol.

      Bee O'Problem :godot:B This user is from outside of this forum
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      #55

      @globex @marcoarment so, they're reducing prices 😈

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      • KurtG Kurt

        @marcoarment just got this today too. lol.

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        @globex @marcoarment ā€œsignificant added AI valueā€ šŸ˜‚

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        • Marco ArmentM Marco Arment

          "Updating", huh? What a word choice. I wonder in which direction it's updating!

          Michael RoweM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #57

          @marcoarment remember when they would just call it what it is… raising the price.

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          • KurtG Kurt

            @marcoarment just got this today too. lol.

            John QM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @globex @marcoarment Wow, they even said the quiet part out loud. Hat's off to you Google, keep on not being evil!

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            • jwzJ jwz

              @marcoarment They're "right-sizing" the price. There was a discrepancy between what they were getting and what they want to be getting.

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              @jwz @marcoarment I switched to strongbox, which felt like the mac assed mac app that 1password used to be, and has the added bonus of storing everything in the open keepass format so I can use it everywhere.

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              • Marco ArmentM Marco Arment

                "Updating", huh? What a word choice. I wonder in which direction it's updating!

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                @marcoarment @jwz Enshittification!!!!

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                • James BilsbroughJ James Bilsbrough

                  @marcoarment up, and whilst not a huge for a year, it's not something I can say I support - as it seems to be only targeting their family plans (we didn't get an email for our team account for @bloominbeads)

                  They're VC funded now, not some tiny indie dev anymore. Honestly, I'm disappointed, plus the 'AI naming' thing.

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                  @jsbilsbrough @marcoarment @bloominbeads Time to find an exit. It starts there and the goes to everything. VC funding. The end of fun

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                  • Miroslav StankicP Miroslav Stankic

                    @marcoarment You’re lucky.
                    Bitwarden increased the price by 100%!
                    From 10 to 20.
                    A year.

                    axbyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @pax0707 @marcoarment their language was even more passive, the email I received simply had the subject "Your Bitwarden Premium renewal is updating", so I almost didn't notice the price increase... the second sentence was "The price is updating to $1.65/month, billed annually". Though it added that "As an existing Bitwarden customer, you will receive a one-time 25% loyalty discount for this year's renewal".

                    $20/yr seems a bit steep just for U2F key support. $10/yr felt worth it.

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                    • DaniĆ«l de KokD DaniĆ«l de Kok

                      @buck @marcoarment you mean the Apple that pushes F1 movie ads to your wallet?

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                      @danieldk @marcoarment That's the one! šŸ˜•

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                      • axbyA axby

                        @pax0707 @marcoarment their language was even more passive, the email I received simply had the subject "Your Bitwarden Premium renewal is updating", so I almost didn't notice the price increase... the second sentence was "The price is updating to $1.65/month, billed annually". Though it added that "As an existing Bitwarden customer, you will receive a one-time 25% loyalty discount for this year's renewal".

                        $20/yr seems a bit steep just for U2F key support. $10/yr felt worth it.

                        Floored FauntleroyI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @axby @pax0707 @marcoarment If you only use Bitwarden for that feature, yes, that seems like a steep price hike *. A big notepad is cheap, and it might serve you better if you have no interrest in the more advanced bells and features you get with a basic subscription.
                        Or you could use Keepass or Lastpass. They’d probably pay people to sign up these days.

                        *I ,apart from using it, have no affiliation with Bitwarden in any way.

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                        • Marco ArmentM Marco Arment

                          "Updating", huh? What a word choice. I wonder in which direction it's updating!

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                          @marcoarment I can understand that wording for services that are actually making structural changes. For instance a hosting provider charging by minutes instead of bandwidth.

                          But just raising the price? Nah.

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                          • Floored FauntleroyI Floored Fauntleroy

                            @axby @pax0707 @marcoarment If you only use Bitwarden for that feature, yes, that seems like a steep price hike *. A big notepad is cheap, and it might serve you better if you have no interrest in the more advanced bells and features you get with a basic subscription.
                            Or you could use Keepass or Lastpass. They’d probably pay people to sign up these days.

                            *I ,apart from using it, have no affiliation with Bitwarden in any way.

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                            @Izng @pax0707 @marcoarment I forgot about emergency and shared access, I do appreciate those somewhat. But I’d rather store my TOTP secrets separately (I actually use Keepass for that). Are there any other great premium features I’m missing?

                            Hmm and it looks like U2F key support is included in the free version now, I don’t think it was 2 years ago.

                            I don’t want to cancel because Bitwarden has been great and I want it to survive, but it seems like the free version would meet all my needs.

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                            • Marco ArmentM Marco Arment

                              "Updating", huh? What a word choice. I wonder in which direction it's updating!

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                              @marcoarment I ā€œupdatedā€ my 1Password price to zero. Thanks Apple Passwords!

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                              • axbyA axby

                                @Izng @pax0707 @marcoarment I forgot about emergency and shared access, I do appreciate those somewhat. But I’d rather store my TOTP secrets separately (I actually use Keepass for that). Are there any other great premium features I’m missing?

                                Hmm and it looks like U2F key support is included in the free version now, I don’t think it was 2 years ago.

                                I don’t want to cancel because Bitwarden has been great and I want it to survive, but it seems like the free version would meet all my needs.

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                                @axby @pax0707 @marcoarment My fav feature is the ability to on the generate ā€œmasked email addressesā€ using Fastmails api. Much like on iCloud, but on better mail servers.

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                                • Floored FauntleroyI Floored Fauntleroy

                                  @axby @pax0707 @marcoarment My fav feature is the ability to on the generate ā€œmasked email addressesā€ using Fastmails api. Much like on iCloud, but on better mail servers.

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                                  @Izng @pax0707 @marcoarment ah, I guess I've never even looked into that because I pay for a domain name (slightly cheaper than Bitwarden premium after the price "update"), so I can get anything@{my domain} forwarded to my main email inbox.

                                  It is fun to sign up for services using {service name}@{my domain name} as the email, though it can get awkward when dealing with a real person who wants to confirm your email address.

                                  I have yet to catch any spam from these aliases, though.

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                                  • Marco ArmentM Marco Arment

                                    "Updating", huh? What a word choice. I wonder in which direction it's updating!

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                                    @marcoarment I don't mind the price increase but the "AI name suggestions" thing combined with the admission that they're vibe-coding the app at this point might push me over the edge to just doing apple's Passwords everywhere. At least "Apple Intelligence" has an off switch.

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                                    • Marco ArmentM Marco Arment

                                      "Updating", huh? What a word choice. I wonder in which direction it's updating!

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                                      @marcoarment well. Don’t leave us hanging!

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                                      • Marco ArmentM Marco Arment

                                        "Updating", huh? What a word choice. I wonder in which direction it's updating!

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                                        @marcoarment I had the same thought

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                                        • Marco ArmentM Marco Arment

                                          "Updating", huh? What a word choice. I wonder in which direction it's updating!

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                                          @marcoarment I’d be happy to pay it if it meant the Safari plug in unlocked properly more often than 20% of the time.

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