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I must object on the idiot: Rom wasn't an idiot. He was just somewhat autistic, and in a wrong place. Once he starts respecting himself and finding Marx, he becomes an union leader, and finally becoming [spoiler].
Wikipedia says that according to Lower Decks, he was a succesful leader who led Ferengis into the Federation.
@iju I didn't read the idiot as derogatory, he was a good person who tried his best even if he didn't always have the right knowledge or tools! Certainly people thought he was, but I don't recall the show ever being cruel about its depiction of him? Might be misremembering
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@sinituulia Finished a rewatch last month and there were a lot more Watch the Irish Man Suffer episodes than I remembered.
@nausicaa Sort of a disproportionate amount, really
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@sinituulia who was the bisexual fashion lizard.. is it Garak?? That sounds frightening. I missed a lot of DS9 growing up for what reasons I can no longer remember. I've just started catching up
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@iju I didn't read the idiot as derogatory, he was a good person who tried his best even if he didn't always have the right knowledge or tools! Certainly people thought he was, but I don't recall the show ever being cruel about its depiction of him? Might be misremembering
The early seasons saw him somewhat as a punching bag without feelings.
So not as much intentionally cruel, as dismissive. Which in someways is worse.
(Though I'm not throwing stones: it may well be they had the arc for Rom designed before-hand, and felt that to make it work they needed him to take several hits for the team.)
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@sinituulia who was the bisexual fashion lizard.. is it Garak?? That sounds frightening. I missed a lot of DS9 growing up for what reasons I can no longer remember. I've just started catching up
@LibertyForward1 Why frightening?
I tried to find that incredible video edit of Garak and Bashir meeting, but my bookmarks are a mess. It's just very incredibly gay and it's so good.
Edit: Found it! https://eldritch.cafe/@sinituulia/115128585195875909I watched as a child, and then a couple of times after that. Most recent rewatch was years ago at this point though
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@sinituulia and like all cops, Odo is a fascist at heart. ACAB.
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The early seasons saw him somewhat as a punching bag without feelings.
So not as much intentionally cruel, as dismissive. Which in someways is worse.
(Though I'm not throwing stones: it may well be they had the arc for Rom designed before-hand, and felt that to make it work they needed him to take several hits for the team.)
@iju @sinituulia I don't think they had Rom's arc planned, but rather it came naturally as Nog's arc evolved (and Nog arguably has the best arc in all of star trek). Rom really changes because of Nog, there's a very specific moment where Rom stands up for Nog joining star fleet which is his turning point. That entire turning point is setup entirely from Nog. It's one of my favorite moments in the show, Nog's courage inspires Rom to stand up for Nog, which in turn give Rom courage. Nog is awesome
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I must object on the idiot: Rom wasn't an idiot. He was just somewhat autistic, and in a wrong place. Once he starts respecting himself and finding Marx, he becomes an union leader, and finally becoming [spoiler].
Wikipedia says that according to Lower Decks, he was a succesful leader who led Ferengis into the Federation.
@iju @sinituulia He was more than a hero. He was a union man!
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@sinituulia "Pope Karen"
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@sinituulia We do get a spaceship later on! It looks like a vacuum cleaner made love to an anteater.
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@nausicaa Sort of a disproportionate amount, really
@sinituulia @nausicaa He's really good at it
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@sinituulia I like the hologram of Frank Sinatra much more than I thought I would. He's not "trapped between two worlds", he's not angsty about being a hologram or trying to become "more human". He's just a guy who is all about helping other people be happy.
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@iju @sinituulia I don't think they had Rom's arc planned, but rather it came naturally as Nog's arc evolved (and Nog arguably has the best arc in all of star trek). Rom really changes because of Nog, there's a very specific moment where Rom stands up for Nog joining star fleet which is his turning point. That entire turning point is setup entirely from Nog. It's one of my favorite moments in the show, Nog's courage inspires Rom to stand up for Nog, which in turn give Rom courage. Nog is awesome
@GabeMoralesVR @iju @sinituulia
There's certainly a lot that can be shown about how Rom fought through institutionalized concepts of his upbringing and learning to accept others through the medium of his own son and breaking a cycle he would have been stuck in. There can be some queer parallels in this realizing that one doesn't have to take familial abuse. Rom is big hearted enough, though, to continue to associate with his brother and even soften some of Quark's edges -
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@sinituulia I was hoping this is a Fediverse instance
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@sinituulia If you are interested in ANTIFA lizards, try out #Babylon5 for a while. Our policeman is also part-time liquid but gets sober in later seasons. Our captain tells the gods to fuck off and not interfere any more.
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OMG, this made me laugh so hard. POPE KAREN.
I'm re-watching everything chronologically by star date, and I'm currently on season 3 of DS9 and season 1 of Voyager.
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@sinituulia If you are interested in ANTIFA lizards, try out #Babylon5 for a while. Our policeman is also part-time liquid but gets sober in later seasons. Our captain tells the gods to fuck off and not interfere any more.
@Quantium40 G'Kar my beloved... I don't remember the spelling of everything but I did watch Babylon 5 growing up and then a lot after growing up too - when it aired in Finland and then via every single box set of everything dad bought since! I even named one of my cats at the time after a joke about vorlons...
It's been a while since the last rewatch, but. Wow did it stick with me.
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@sinituulia I died at Pope Karen lmfao
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