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  3. Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

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  • McNadoMDM McNadoMD

    Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

    Doesn’t matter if that information is true. Doesn’t matter if the referenced facts or events actually occurred, were discussed, or are present in the record. The engine will “hallucinate” — make it up entirely — whatever the engine decides fulfills the prompt.

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    Misuse Case
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    @mcnado For a while I saw ads on YouTube for AI note-taking apps where the narrator was talking about how they struggled to take notes in meetings and it was so much easier now.

    My view of this was that said narrator needed to learn proper note-taking skills. (One of my duties on my current job is taking notes for meetings related to an esoteric subject in a regulated industry.)

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    • Darth OslerA Darth Osler

      @mcnado *ahem*

      While the lay term may be hallucinate, the precise term is confabulate

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      @autolycos @mcnado

      Thanks for this important correction. As any psychiatrist will agree, a 'hallucination' has a quite specific technical meaning that carries diagnostic weight. The correct term for AI producing nonsense is 'confabulate' which is also a psychopathology with diagnostic implications.

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      • Andi HA Andi H

        @mcnado
        Research papers written by AI contain references (because AI knows it has to include them), but it doesn't know they have to be real references... study analysing 2.5 million papers identified approximately 146,900 hallucinated citations in 2025 alone

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        @AH_99 @mcnado

        Lets be clear - the AI did not 'hallucinate'. It confabulated the invented referrences; no sensory processing mistake occurred. It doesn't (yet) have a sensory system.

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        • drdr6262D drdr6262

          @AH_99 @mcnado

          Lets be clear - the AI did not 'hallucinate'. It confabulated the invented referrences; no sensory processing mistake occurred. It doesn't (yet) have a sensory system.

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          @drdr6262 @mcnado
          Ironically, I remembered the invented references and searched to find the details. I copy pasted the statistics. Damn AI had worded it that way ... I will write out on paper 100 times "I will not copy paste AI results" 😉

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          • McNadoMDM McNadoMD

            Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

            Doesn’t matter if that information is true. Doesn’t matter if the referenced facts or events actually occurred, were discussed, or are present in the record. The engine will “hallucinate” — make it up entirely — whatever the engine decides fulfills the prompt.

            valOrie_p'OV This user is from outside of this forum
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            valOrie_p'O
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            @mcnado @samiamsam #AIENSHITIFICATION

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            • drdr6262D drdr6262

              @AH_99 @mcnado

              Lets be clear - the AI did not 'hallucinate'. It confabulated the invented referrences; no sensory processing mistake occurred. It doesn't (yet) have a sensory system.

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              @drdr6262 @AH_99 @mcnado
              Ai = artificial idiocy.

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              • drdr6262D drdr6262

                @AH_99 @mcnado

                Lets be clear - the AI did not 'hallucinate'. It confabulated the invented referrences; no sensory processing mistake occurred. It doesn't (yet) have a sensory system.

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                @drdr6262 @AH_99 @mcnado
                #GenAISlop machines don’t do any of those things, they merely calculate a parametized statistical probability output, based on a vast uncurated corpus, that one character follows another in combination with white spaces in a sequence that is likely to be understodd by a human requesting it. There’s no confabulation, no hallusinations, just a big con job.

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                • Misuse CaseM Misuse Case

                  @mcnado For a while I saw ads on YouTube for AI note-taking apps where the narrator was talking about how they struggled to take notes in meetings and it was so much easier now.

                  My view of this was that said narrator needed to learn proper note-taking skills. (One of my duties on my current job is taking notes for meetings related to an esoteric subject in a regulated industry.)

                  PhilWillP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  PhilWill
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                  @MisuseCase @mcnado 100%

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                  • McNadoMDM McNadoMD

                    Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

                    Doesn’t matter if that information is true. Doesn’t matter if the referenced facts or events actually occurred, were discussed, or are present in the record. The engine will “hallucinate” — make it up entirely — whatever the engine decides fulfills the prompt.

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                    The actual problem isn't hallucination, it's that the output looks authoritative whether or not it is. A confused human writes a confused sentence. The model writes confident prose either way, and that's what gets the report signed.

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                    • McNadoMDM McNadoMD

                      Whether you are in #lawenforcement or #medicine it is imperative that you understand this simple concept: AI engines that write reports will put information in the report that the AI engine thinks is what you want to see in the report.

                      Doesn’t matter if that information is true. Doesn’t matter if the referenced facts or events actually occurred, were discussed, or are present in the record. The engine will “hallucinate” — make it up entirely — whatever the engine decides fulfills the prompt.

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                      @mcnado

                      It's going on averages and data weights, not at all "thinking" or knowing what's important.

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