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Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

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  • Geoff EvansG Geoff Evans

    @cwebber @demofox I keep getting this idea that all we need is a UEFI Boolean about whether the device is operated by a minor, and to require ID checks to prevent devices being sold to minors. Then parents can just pw protect the BIOS old school style, and if young Billy builds his own Linux kernel patching the device tree to always show adult the they win the porn prize. I suppose we’d need a solve for defaults reset, too, but doable.

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    @gorlak @cwebber @demofox what is considered "porn" here? And who decides? Moms for liberty? What's the appeal process like for wrongful classification?

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    • CarolynC Carolyn

      @cwebber The big thing is the 3rd parties with whom the data is shared and who are likely sponsoring these bills.

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      @CStamp @cwebber

      The claim by the Colorado state legislators concerned is that this is designed to avoid sharing anything with 3rd parties.

      They could simply oppose age verification software as the massive privacy violation that it is instead.

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      • Ra (Freya) (it/its)π’€­π’ˆΉπ’ π’Š©F Ra (Freya) (it/its)π’€­π’ˆΉπ’ π’Š©

        @cwebber holy fuck no. this is literally just pparents salty that their kids aren't buying into the shit parents are pushing, and even saltier that kids are, y'know, demanding rights

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        @freya @cwebber it's plainly oppression and I'm saddened that I jeep.having to explain this to people. They won't accept the truth even when you spell it out. Why is this? What's wrong with people that they'll toe the line for a conspiracy of billionaire Nazi pedophiles?

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        • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

          @freya @cwebber it's plainly oppression and I'm saddened that I jeep.having to explain this to people. They won't accept the truth even when you spell it out. Why is this? What's wrong with people that they'll toe the line for a conspiracy of billionaire Nazi pedophiles?

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          Ra (Freya) (it/its)π’€­π’ˆΉπ’ π’Š©
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          @fluffykittycat @cwebber better to do that than to let their kids have rights

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          • Michael BuschM Michael Busch

            @CStamp @cwebber

            The claim by the Colorado state legislators concerned is that this is designed to avoid sharing anything with 3rd parties.

            They could simply oppose age verification software as the massive privacy violation that it is instead.

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            @michael_w_busch @cwebber "SB26-051, introduced last month, would require operating systems to register the owner’s age, which third-party apps can then leverage to determine if the user is an adult. The bill calls for the device owner to register their birthdate or age, but for the purposes of creating an β€œage bracket,” which can then be shared to an app developer through an API to learn their age range, according to BiometricUpdate.com."

            It does say leverage and sharing with app developers.

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            • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

              @freya @cwebber it's plainly oppression and I'm saddened that I jeep.having to explain this to people. They won't accept the truth even when you spell it out. Why is this? What's wrong with people that they'll toe the line for a conspiracy of billionaire Nazi pedophiles?

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              @fluffykittycat @freya @cwebber Because otherwise their kid might end up becoming one of those got dang "home of sexuals" and that's literally the worst thing to ever possibly happen to anyone ever

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              • FelisCatusDomesticusF FelisCatusDomesticus

                @cwebber I dont observe anyone dropping corporate social media en masse or cutting ties with the megacorps that actively disempower them and have for decades

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                @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber This is true of adults as well as kids, though. The vast majority of people of all age groups are on corporate social media.

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                • AiresA Aires

                  @fluffykittycat @freya @cwebber Because otherwise their kid might end up becoming one of those got dang "home of sexuals" and that's literally the worst thing to ever possibly happen to anyone ever

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                  Ra (Freya) (it/its)π’€­π’ˆΉπ’ π’Š©
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                  @aires @fluffykittycat @cwebber it's not just that, it's that their kid might do better than them. might change the world and make the world they (the parent) greww up in not exist anymore. and they hate that idea

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                  • CarolynC Carolyn

                    @michael_w_busch @cwebber "SB26-051, introduced last month, would require operating systems to register the owner’s age, which third-party apps can then leverage to determine if the user is an adult. The bill calls for the device owner to register their birthdate or age, but for the purposes of creating an β€œage bracket,” which can then be shared to an app developer through an API to learn their age range, according to BiometricUpdate.com."

                    It does say leverage and sharing with app developers.

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                    @CStamp @cwebber

                    Here is the proposed bill: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 .

                    Again; their claim is to allow sharing only an age flag rather than everyone's full ID getting leaked.

                    Which does nothing to resolve the more fundamental problem.

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                    • FelisCatusDomesticusF FelisCatusDomesticus

                      @neatchee @cwebber

                      a fair amount of horse management too, being done mainly by big corps, with government doing a bit as well..

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                      @FelisCatusDomesticus @neatchee @cwebber Got a source link?

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                      • Michael BuschM Michael Busch

                        @CStamp @cwebber

                        Here is the proposed bill: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 .

                        Again; their claim is to allow sharing only an age flag rather than everyone's full ID getting leaked.

                        Which does nothing to resolve the more fundamental problem.

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                        @michael_w_busch @cwebber Even if it only restricts by age being shared and doesn't exploit that, that is STILL a big boon for marketers and still invades privacy of all.

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                        • Christine Lemmer-WebberC Christine Lemmer-Webber

                          Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                          Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                          There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                          @cwebber seems to me that this is evil, but a lesser evil than having to prove my age (actually my identity) to every site on the internet (which will then be pawned)

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                          • Christine Lemmer-WebberC Christine Lemmer-Webber

                            Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                            Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                            There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                            /usr/local/goth @ home
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                            @cwebber

                            "Look Susie we have red star os at home"

                            Red Star os at home:

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                            • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                              @gorlak @cwebber @demofox what is considered "porn" here? And who decides? Moms for liberty? What's the appeal process like for wrongful classification?

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                              demofox
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                              @fluffykittycat @gorlak @cwebber indeed, and what about content regarding Wicca, or Islam? Where's the line and who decides it?

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                              • Christine Lemmer-WebberC Christine Lemmer-Webber

                                Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                                Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                                There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                                Paul McAleer
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                                @cwebber Thanks for promoting this. This is in committee next Tuesday, 24 February, and members of the public in CO can sign up to attest (it's SB26-051). It's accepted via in-person, Zoom, or written.

                                https://sites.coleg.gov/public-testimony/sign-up-to-testify/step-1

                                Other notes from the bill: a) This is sponsored by 2 Democrats; b) web-based usage is not included in this, only apps + app stores; c) enterprise apps are exempted; d) the cost for the state to update *its* apps to support this is $250k. πŸ₯΄

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                                • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                                  @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber I didn't have a "trivial mind" at that age

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                                  @fluffykittycat @cwebber

                                  so what?

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                                  • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                                    @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber you can't exactly do that individually on a dime like that

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                                    @fluffykittycat @cwebber

                                    yes you can.

                                    social media in it's current form has existed less than 30 years.

                                    humans have existed far longer than that.

                                    viable options exist and have for years now.

                                    there is no technical reason, only individual reasons and social ones and those are completely malleable. Most of my life there was no social media. It didn't exist.

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                                    • Ra (Freya) (it/its)π’€­π’ˆΉπ’ π’Š©F Ra (Freya) (it/its)π’€­π’ˆΉπ’ π’Š©

                                      @fluffykittycat @cwebber better to do that than to let their kids have rights

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                                      @freya @cwebber youth liberation went from being philosophical to being immediately relevant to everyone's rights

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                                      • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                                        @cwebber @FelisCatusDomesticus true, high schoolers are walking out coast to coast so often I see it in the headlines at least every couple of weeks

                                        What's changed is that we all know our "representitives" don't care and won't listen

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                                        @fluffykittycat @cwebber

                                        and that's the same thing your great grandparents said about the politicians of their day vis-a-vis the Vietnam War..

                                        soo.. what's the young generation gonna do?

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                                        • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                                          @freya @cwebber youth liberation went from being philosophical to being immediately relevant to everyone's rights

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                                          Ra (Freya) (it/its)π’€­π’ˆΉπ’ π’Š©
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                                          @fluffykittycat @cwebber fucking correct. and as it becoems more and more of a common sense thing, parents and people in power scream ever louder at the concept that they might have to start having, not rights, but responsibilities

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